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I got a loupe..now what? |
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| P: 6/16/2005 10:30:02 AM | |
Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005 |
Well I got my loupe (18 x 30mm) and was very excited to start checking out my rings. I started with my grandma's ering that was given to me and to be honest, I don't know what to look for!!  Yes It looks pretty and sparkley when I bring the ring up to it but should I be looking for inclusions? Scratches? Hearts and Arrows? Obviously I'm no expert!!  Any help would be great! Also, I have NO IDEA how some of you take pics through the loupe! I tried, it was horrible! Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________________________ "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one" |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 10:30:02 AM | |
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| P: 6/16/2005 11:28:54 AM | |
Josh@JA Cut Rock Total Posts: 366 Last Post: 2/18/2008 Member Since: 9/11/2003 |
I think that its a good thing that you are having trouble seeing inclusions. Sometimes when a customer finds the inclusion(s) it begins to bug them to the point that they may no longer want the diamond. Its obviously an eye-clean diamond not too mention very difficult to see flaws with magnification. It may be best to not see what is there, because once you can see what is there you may be disappointed and soon forget that beautiful impression that you had about the diamond.
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 11:28:54 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 11:49:05 AM | |
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Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005 |
Thanks JC. I was actually thinking that too..I was looking at it for a while and just couldn't find an inclusion. I don't know much about grandma's ring but it must be a nice diamond! Thank you again. ____________________________________________________________________________________ |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 11:49:05 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 11:54:34 AM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,919 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
don't worry I am the same way. no matter how many diamonds I see, I have the hardest time finding an inclusion! I had a VS1 and i never saw them until my appraiser pointed them out and then sometimes i could find them and sometimes not. Then I had an SI1 where i couldn't see a darn thing regardless of how many times I looked at it, I think all inclusions were white. Now I have an SI2 that does have alot of small dotted inclusions, one of which is a black one which fascinates me, it's like a tiny piece of dirt embedded into the stone. i think it's somewhat cool, i can only see it if i put my eye really close to the stone, so it's very much eye-clean at normal distances! but this stone is definitely more fun to look at through the loupe though i STILL can't seem to find most of the inclusions on the plot, just this black one!!
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 11:54:34 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 11:58:47 AM | |
DiamondExpert Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,243 Last Post: 6/20/2009 Member Since: 1/16/2003 |
A loupe is quite difficult to use effectively without some experience. In the beginning make sure the stones/jewelry are CLEAN. Begin by looking for the most obvious features like surface defects - chips, cracks, etc. A major difficulty in seeing inclusions, especially in diamond, is the lighting. Ideally, you need darkfield lighting and here a gem microscope is the best instrument. |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 11:58:47 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:19:32 PM | |
RockDoc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,509 Last Post: 6/17/2007 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
I agree with Gary..... A loupe in the hands of the inexperienced, and untrained, is NOT the same as someone who is properly educated and trained to use it. The dark field illumination is just important.... ITS CRITICAL. Also everyone's vision is different. THis may vary what is able to be observed by a lot. If you can pick out the inclusions, fine - but if you can't, with just using a loupe, then it doesn't really prove much. To really become skilled at this takes a fair amount of time and practice. Finding inclusions at 10x is often difficult to do, and even gemologists usually use the zoom /higher power on a scope to find the inclusions. DIY without proper training, practice and guidance, is sort of useless. Rockdoc
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:19:32 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:39:44 PM | |
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Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005 |
Thanks Mara, you made me feel better!  Obviously I am not trained to use the loupe. Just wanted it to look a little closer and possibly learn something. It is fun though!
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:39:44 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:41:04 PM | |
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
I say STOP LOOKING ASAP!!!  Nothing good can come from it.
______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:41:04 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:44:49 PM | |
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Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005 |
Date: 6/16/2005 12:41:04 PM Author: moremoremore I say STOP LOOKING ASAP!!! Nothing good can come from it. Why? I'll start to find inclusions and drive myself nuts! It's ok, it's not "my" ring. NOW if it was a new ering, yes I agree with you, I would probably go crazy! ____________________________________________________________________________________ |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:44:49 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:54:20 PM | |
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moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
LOL. Yeah, I'm just teasing. But that's what happened to me. A vendor sent me a free loupe with my new ring. BAD idea 
______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:54:20 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 12:58:39 PM | |
Patty Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,031 Last Post: 6/4/2008 Member Since: 12/7/2003 |
I have an I-1 stone that has one large crystal right under the table. It's hard for me to pick out with my naked eye and sometimes I have trouble even with a loupe. I find that I have to angle the stone "just so" to see it and then it suddenly looks very obvious!
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 12:58:39 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 1:04:52 PM | |
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004 |
When the appraiser showed me my stone, he turned it at different angles to show the inclusion....wan't visible from top down...like it was on another "plane"...does that make sense??? He looked at the diamond from different angles....
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 1:04:52 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 1:22:26 PM | |
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Angel7 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,997 Last Post: 8/7/2008 Member Since: 1/18/2005 |
I've been looking from all angles, just trying to get a glimpse of something. To be honest, I'm so uneducated that there probably is something right in front of me and I'm missing it! I just love looking at it...so sparkely........yum!
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 1:22:26 PM | |
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