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Does this look like a $6000 diamond to you people??? |
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| P: 6/15/2005 6:10:47 PM | |
harcace Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 5/31/2005 |
Blue Nile Signature Princess Carat weight: 0.90 Cut: Signature Princess Color: E Clarity: VS1 Depth %: 64.8% Table %: 65% Symmetry: Very good Polish: Excellent Girdle: Thin to medium Culet: None Fluorescence: None Measurements: 5.49x5.45x3.53 mm Crown height: 12.8% Length/width ratio: 1.01 $6000 is my upper limit to spend on a diamond. They all look the same to me, so if you know or see something special about this diamond, perhaps you could help me out  I have learned a lot on here, but am afraid to make a mistake purchase. Thanks you so much for helping me. |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 6:10:47 PM | |
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| P: 6/15/2005 6:42:36 PM | |
carrot Rough Rock Total Posts: 61 Last Post: 8/24/2005 Member Since: 6/8/2005 |
Blue Nile does not provide all of the essential information needed to evaluate a diamond. I would never buy a diamond sight-unseen without at least an Idealscope image and GemEx report. Find a vendor (such as those on this forum) who will have these available for diamonds you are considering. Almost any diamond, when viewed by itself, will appear beautiful to some degree. However, when you eventually compare it with other diamonds or see other diamonds of the same shape that are well cut, you may be in for a disappointment. If you are buying near your budget limit (as most people do) you can't afford a mistake. Patience has a good chance of paying handsome dividends when it comes to buying a diamond. Recently, there were some gorgeous images posted of princess cuts from Infinity Diamonds that looked very promising or at least worth investigating further. Check out their vendors before you make your purchase. You will be looking at your diamond for a long time. Find the most beautiful stone you can within your budget. Beauty is in the cut of the holder! |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 6:42:36 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 6:56:58 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Date: 6/15/2005 6:10:47 PM Author:harcace They all look the same to me, so if you know or see something special about this diamond, perhaps you could help me out Well, have you seen it ?  Those numbers look equally meanigless without some procedure to interpret them. No wonder all www listings look the same to you. It is rather difficult to locate batches of diamonds that really do look the same in person, even to a disintersted, casual and uninformed observer. Since you are going to buy one diamond for a good chunk of cash, it doesn't sound like you might be either (disinterested or...). All those numbers and grades say is that the diamond has no visible color or inclusions and it is about as large - in diameter - as 1 carat princess cuts get (a run of the database here proves this asap). Both are good news. Compared to 1 carat E/VS this is not expensive. Now, some say that a relatively high crown and small table is desirable for princess cuts. This one has it, but those give only a very rough idea of how this one might rank in terms of brilliance among all princess cuts out there. In case such detailed information is meanigful to you, it could be acquired by using some test and/or the services of an appraiser during the return period. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 6:56:58 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 8:12:21 PM | |
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harcace Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 5/31/2005 |
I really appreciate both of your advice and help. I am just not too good at this. I was at Tiffany's last weekend and the lady was showing me an I color compared to a D color and they really kind of looked the same to me. I just thought that if it is called Signature Ideal cut at Blue Nile, then it will more than likely look nice to the naked eye and that is all I really want. I don't care much how it looks under a microscope as lond as it looks fine to her eyes.
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| Posted: 6/15/2005 8:12:21 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 8:17:04 PM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Date: 6/15/2005 8:12:21 PM Author: harcace I color compared to a D color and they really kind of looked the same to me. I don't care much how it looks under a microscope as lond as it looks fine to her eyes. This sounds like I-SI rather than E-VS ! Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 8:17:04 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 8:19:29 PM | |
IrishEyes Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,246 Last Post: 7/28/2008 Member Since: 1/4/2005 |
$6000 for just under a carat seems like a little much. I've been looking at some princess cuts at whiteflash.com that are very nice looking and are between 1.30-1.50 carats for $7500-$8500. I would look on there. Whiteflash is highly recommended here on pricescope and I intend to buy from them when I upgrade!
IrishEyes,AJP (GIA) |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 8:19:29 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 8:20:51 PM | |
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harcace Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 5/31/2005 |
Do you think so? Someone told me that an I would look stupid in a white gold setting. That is the setting that she likes I believe. She does not like regular gold so much. She does not want a 1 carat bc it looked a little silly on her little finger. She has pretty small fingers I guess. Plus, she currently does not wear any rings or anything for that matter.
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| Posted: 6/15/2005 8:20:51 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 8:45:26 PM | |
Drewgasm Rough Rock Total Posts: 31 Last Post: 7/27/2005 Member Since: 5/17/2005 |
I have found out a few things on here......one.....there is no use putting up numbers from a GIA report on diamonds because everyone says the same thing......not enough info.....no idealscope image......have you seen the diamond in person.....do you have a sarin report....yada yada yada......for the common person, like myself or you.....if you cant tell the difference between a D color and an I color just looking at it......really your paying for what the paper says....which I admit, I did.....I guess it was self gratification.......but my buddy referred me to Blue Nile.....his wife was happy with their ring......and I got one from there...a signature cut.....basically just by learning from what others post as far as all the basics with table, color, depth, clarity, cut, polish, symmetry, girdle, all that.....no scope, no nothing......just buying it with numbers and the stone I got is gorgeous....if you get a signature cut from Blue Nile you will be very happy....they may be a tad high in price.....but a good vendor with a great return policy if you dont like it......just return it within 30 days.....with that being said, Im sure Whiteflash, GOG, Dirtcheapdiamonds and the others listed in this forum are great too......The only worry I would really have is if its eyeclean....and if its not.....send it back.....but to the common person, if it looks good on your wife, it will look good when she shows it off.....I have yet to see someone say to someone.....what an ugly looking stone, let me look at that, and whip out his loupe at the supermarket....lol......Im sure whatever you purchase, you'll do just fine....... Andrew Remember: "The Road To Success Is Always Under Construction!" |
| Posted: 6/15/2005 8:45:26 PM | |
| P: 6/15/2005 9:00:38 PM | |
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Besides knowing information about cut etc... If it looks good to your eyes, that's one thing in selecting a nice stone. People come here to get advice and therefore many questions are posed of the poster. We would be remiss in giving advice if we didn't have all the info. Sorry if you are bothered by all the questions, but it's needed in order to give a thumbs up or down to the stone in question. Just my 0.2.
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| Posted: 6/15/2005 9:00:38 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 1:31:42 AM | |
Skavatar Rough Rock Total Posts: 15 Last Post: 8/10/2005 Member Since: 5/11/2005 |
the numbers look decent. i specifically looked for a low depth and table percentage. ultimately you'll have to see it in person to really know if it shines and sparkles good. there are some online vendors that allow a 7 day or 10 day inspection 100% money back. it seems bluenile has a 30day return policy, that's very good. the color, clarity, symmetry and l/w ratios are promising, could be the stone you're looking for and it may not be. gotta see it in person.
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 1:31:42 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 5:12:38 AM | |
Paul-Antwerp Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,913 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/3/2002 |
Like I said in another thread, the answer is extremely relative. Up to the beginning of this year, princesses were cut in a traditional way, mainly to maintain weight. Some observers took the trouble of observing these princesses, and of devising guideline-charts in order to judge cut. Based upon these charts, you possibly have a nicely performing princess-cut there. At the beginning of this year, AGS has introduced a cut-grading sytem for princess-cuts, based upon light performance, and you can compare this to the discovery of a new planet. According to AGS's studies, more than 50% of the princesses on the 'old planet' would score AGS-5 or lower. My estimate is that the stones with the highest light performance on the 'old planet' will score around AGS-3. If we look at your stone here, we can deduct a pavilion depth of around 49%. Deducting the second pavilion-angle from there, and checking the AGS-cutting guidelines, this stone will at best get an AGS-3-grade. Therefore, it is possibly one of the better performing stones on the 'old planet'. Comparing prices with the 'new planet', the same size-colour-clarity in AGS-0 would cost about 10% more. Because of all these new developments, it is very difficult to give you a straightforward advice. I hope that you understand the backgrounds now, and that should help you to decide. Live long, Paul Slegers |
| Posted: 6/16/2005 5:12:38 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2005 6:54:15 AM | |
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harcace Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 5/31/2005 |
Yes, thank you all so much for your help in this very confusing saga. I really appreciate you and this websites.
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| Posted: 6/16/2005 6:54:15 AM | |
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