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| P: 4/21/2005 3:10:20 PM | |
IrishEyes Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,246 Last Post: 7/28/2008 Member Since: 1/4/2005 |
Anyone know anything about this site, Gemnation.com? They sell GIA and AGS diamonds. I did a few searches, the prices seem pretty good. Just wondering if they are a reputable company or not, or if anyone has any info on them? Thanks!
IrishEyes,AJP (GIA) |
| Posted: 4/21/2005 3:10:20 PM | |
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There are 13 replies to this message. There are 13 replies on this page. |
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| P: 4/22/2005 7:32:40 AM | |
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,583 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
I doubt anyone can sustain a business on lower margins than the regular pricescope vendors who list and allow their prices to be compared directly on this site. And we would all be first to know that any one of them behaved in an unethical manner. So if you see lower prices then i suspect you will find there is a good (or bad) reason. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 4/22/2005 7:32:40 AM | |
| P: 4/22/2005 8:39:51 AM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Cute site... Not only they have prices comparable with Pricescope's, but they list the same diamonds as well ! For example, this 1.81cts G VS2 that also appears listed by WF at exactly the same price and with exactly the same faxed copy of GIA cert attached. There must be hundreds more examples like this prooving Garry's note about slim margins just right  Gemnation.com does not talk much about their diamonds: some come with copies of lab certs listed (fuzzy faxed ones or scanned) and this is all. Not unlike Blue Nile or... all diamonds that do not have some particular cut pedigree around here. The jewelry photos are downright funky: tweacked to resenble Tiffany's apparently. Some are so successfully manipulated that I thought they were copied from the infamous site, but they are not. Can't see any BS there.  Any help ?The gemstone section of the site is a bit... different though. Take a look Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 4/22/2005 8:39:51 AM | |
| P: 4/22/2005 6:24:12 PM | |
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IrishEyes Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,246 Last Post: 7/28/2008 Member Since: 1/4/2005 |
Thanks for your replies Gary and Valeria! I wasn't sure about it. Sometimes I go into random diamond sites and "compare" the prices and pieces I see to those here on Pricescope and PS vendors. I'm usually not impressed. I am LOVING Whiteflash, and when I get my upgrade ( hopefully at the end of the year), I am almost 100% certain I will buy from them! Thanks again!
IrishEyes,AJP (GIA) |
| Posted: 4/22/2005 6:24:12 PM | |
| P: 4/22/2005 10:43:29 PM | |
Rebemdee Cut Rock Total Posts: 259 Last Post: 12/9/2007 Member Since: 11/29/2004 |
I looked at the website, and this pendant caught my attention. It made me think of somebody desperately hanging on to a life presever. Weird, no?
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| Posted: 4/22/2005 10:43:29 PM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 1:42:13 AM | |
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IrishEyes Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,246 Last Post: 7/28/2008 Member Since: 1/4/2005 |
LOL!!! you are so right!! It does look like that. Interesting...... 
IrishEyes,AJP (GIA) |
| Posted: 4/23/2005 1:42:13 AM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 4:15:55 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
No kidding !  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 4/23/2005 4:15:55 AM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 4:22:05 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
This is less funny... I hope it is crystal clear that the picture on that website is "representative" only and corresponds to the best quality. Hope they'd do something about this. The site looks pretty good otherwise. (the Cherry in cause is listed down this link)  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 4/23/2005 4:22:05 AM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 4:07:18 PM | |
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Rebemdee Cut Rock Total Posts: 259 Last Post: 12/9/2007 Member Since: 11/29/2004 |
I'm totally laughing here, that is hysterical! I love the Wilson's preserver in there! Well done!
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| Posted: 4/23/2005 4:07:18 PM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 5:27:08 PM | |
pearcrazy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,438 Last Post: 11/27/2008 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
One diamond I found was $400 cheaper on gemnation.com than Mondera. I wonder how there's such a huge difference in price? The cert was dated 2002, perhaps that is the reason. As far as the colored stones go, how do you show one gemstone with particular features and then offer in in three different carat weights? Pictures are supposed to be examples I guess, but still a bit confusing.
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| Posted: 4/23/2005 5:27:08 PM | |
| P: 4/23/2005 6:05:46 PM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Date: 4/23/2005 5:278 PM Author: pearcrazy One diamond I found was $400 cheaper on gemnation.com than Mondera Is that allot relative to the total price ? For each set of GIA specs there seems to be 40% or so price variation (between different stones, same color, clarity, weight... etc).  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 4/23/2005 6:05:46 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2005 12:58:49 PM | |
Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,325 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Date: 4/22/2005 8:39:51 AM Author: valeria101 Cute site... For example, this 1.81cts G VS2 that also appears listed by WF at exactly the same price and with exactly the same faxed copy of GIA cert attached. Gemnation.com does not talk much about their diamonds: some come with copies of lab certs listed (fuzzy faxed ones or scanned) and this is all. Not unlike Blue Nile or... all diamonds that do not have some particular cut pedigree around here. Your comments made me re-look at the certs posted. I had looked at this issue a few weeks ago, with the mention of DiamondOnWeb, and their offerings with AGS certs showing. At the time, I thought I only saw Blue Nile having them, with diamonds mostly not repeating elsewhere, and only sometimes at Union Diamond. Did I miss White Flash having them, too, or is that a recent development? Anyway, whether through Gemnation, DiamondsOnWeb, Blue Nile, or White Flash, the availability of this info does help to make for a more useful search for Plan B. Particularly, when using the search by cut tool here, and a diamond is listed with an AGS cert, even though not in house, there are increasing chances you can know more about it than I had earlier thought was possible. Regards, Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. |
| Posted: 4/24/2005 12:58:49 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2005 1:22:31 PM | |
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pearcrazy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,438 Last Post: 11/27/2008 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
Date: 4/23/2005 6 Diamond on Mondera was $6352, the SAME (and in same I mean same specs, color and same GIA cert. number, so EXACT SAME DIAMOND) on Gemnation.com was $5812-- a $540 dollar difference. Are you saying there can be a 40% difference for the same diamond between vendors?
 5:46 PMAuthor: valeria101 Date: 4/23/2005 5:278 PM Author: pearcrazy One diamond I found was $400 cheaper on gemnation.com than Mondera Is that allot relative to the total price ? For each set of GIA specs there seems to be 40% or so price variation (between different stones, same color, clarity, weight... etc).
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| Posted: 4/24/2005 1:22:31 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2005 6:59:43 AM | |
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Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,325 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Pear crazy, Date: 4/24/2005 1:22:31 PM Author: pearcrazy Date: 4/23/2005 6 Diamond on Mondera was $6352, the SAME (and in same I mean same specs, color and same GIA cert. number, so EXACT SAME DIAMOND) on Gemnation.com was $5812-- a $540 dollar difference. Are you saying there can be a 40% difference for the same diamond between vendors?5:46 PMAuthor: valeria101 Date: 4/23/2005 5:278 PM Author: pearcrazy One diamond I found was $400 cheaper on gemnation.com than Mondera Is that allot relative to the total price ?  For each set of GIA specs there seems to be 40% or so price variation (between different stones, same color, clarity, weight... etc). I think you have apples & oranges, though both are fruit! Two stones sharing the same qualities could vary 40% between them, was I think Ana's observation. One stone being sold by different vendors might have something like a 10% spread, was I think your observation. Looking at just one diamond on the Pricescope Quick search, I found a 4-5% spread, and that's in an environment where these diamond's prices are specifically presented next to each other. Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. |
| Posted: 4/25/2005 6:59:43 AM | |
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