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P: 4/20/2005 9:04:16 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	I'm thinking about buying the following diamond. I can't even think straight anymore! How does she look to you? Thanks, Brian 1.26 ct., H, VS1 Polish/Symmetry: E/E HCA: 1.6
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:04:16 PM

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P: 4/20/2005 9:16:18 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	Oh, by the way. I'm not an expert. I'd just like to get something for my girlfriend that most people would look at and say, "that's a nice diamond!" Thanks, Brian
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:16:18 PM

P: 4/20/2005 9:18:48 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 4/20/2005 9:4:16 PM Author:brian100 How does she look to you? Very nice one not-H&A round with top brilliance, judging from the IdealScope picture I do not know how much is that one... how does 7k sound by comparion ? (for this one) It just sounded tempting among the listings of matching size. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:18:48 PM

P: 4/20/2005 9:23:37 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	Dear Ana, Yes, it is round and is not a H&A. Did you mean to say that it is does have top brilliance, or does not have top brilliance? Sorry for the confusion, and many thanks for your opinion. Regards, Brian
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:23:37 PM

P: 4/20/2005 9:25:17 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 4/20/2005 9:23:37 PM Author: brian100 Did you mean to say that it is does have top brilliance, or does not have top brilliance? I was trying to say "yes, it does have top brilliance". Sorry for the confusion... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:25:17 PM

P: 4/20/2005 9:26:50 PM
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004	You said it has good HCA...what are the measurements??
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:26:50 PM

P: 4/20/2005 9:30:12 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	Here are the values entered for the HCA: Table: 56.4% Depth: 62.6% Crown: 34.8 deg. Pavilion: 40.8 deg. Culet: 0.4% Brian
Posted: 4/20/2005 9:30:12 PM

P: 4/20/2005 10:30:13 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	very nice! i think you will be quite happy with that!! (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 4/20/2005 10:30:13 PM

P: 4/20/2005 10:44:12 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	have seen better I-Scope from WF what cause the big black spots next to the arrow shaft? it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 4/20/2005 10:44:12 PM

P: 4/20/2005 10:58:59 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 4/20/2005 10:44:12 PM Author: Dancing Fire have seen better I-Scope from WF what cause the big black spots next to the arrow shaft? This is not H&A so it does not have H&A symmetry... the black patches are ... the same thing that arrows are: reflector facets If the arrows are bright, those spots will be too: they just add contrast there. I am guessing a bit... but they might be due to the particular alignment of pavilion facets in this stone (that does not follow H&A symmetry, not that is a bad thing off the bat). Perhaps if there was allot ore of them, all that contrast brilliance could be called too much of a good thing. Do you think that's too much ? Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 4/20/2005 10:58:59 PM

P: 4/20/2005 11:05:39 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Speaking of ideal cut bargains... Have you seen this ? it is a smidge smaller allright (6.7mm), but very Harts and Arrows (ACA) and a 5k bargain to boot. Not sure if this is what Pricescope is meant for, but since the post was allowed Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 4/20/2005 11:05:39 PM

P: 4/20/2005 11:55:09 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 4/20/2005 10:58:59 PM Author: valeria101 Date: 4/20/2005 10:44:12 PM Author: Dancing Fire have seen better I-Scope from WF  what cause the big black spots next to the arrow shaft? This is not H&A so it does not have H&A symmetry... the black patches are ... the same thing that arrows are: reflector facets   If the arrows are bright, those spots will be too: they just add contrast there. I am guessing a bit... but they might be due to the particular alignment of pavilion facets in this stone (that does not follow H&A symmetry, not that is a bad thing off the bat). Perhaps if there was allot ore of them, all that contrast brilliance could be called too much of a good thing. Do you think that's too much ? Ana i know is not a H&A stone but the big black patches are in a odd location. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 4/20/2005 11:55:09 PM

P: 4/21/2005 1:05:41 AM
JohnQuixote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,212 Last Post: 5/24/2008 Member Since: 9/9/2004	Ana has hit the nail on the head: This is not a precision-patterned diamond such as a H&A cut, and there is facet yaw at work here. DF, those dark places under the table are where lower girdles are yawed such that light is returned on the same axis as from adjacent mains. Incidentally, this is a diamond that we brought in for the customer, so was not listed in our Expert Selection for any regulars who went a-looking for it Brian - If my comments are pinging your radar please give Brian Gavin a call tomorrow and he will speak with you about this. John __________________________ John Pollard Whiteflash Director of Education 2004-2007
Posted: 4/21/2005 1:05:41 AM

P: 4/21/2005 10:33:54 AM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	I would take John's advice and talk to Brian at WF about it. They may have a better diamond available at comparable prices in the ES line that is better cut. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 4/21/2005 10:33:54 AM

P: 4/21/2005 12:48:01 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	Many thanks to all of you for your valuable comments. I didn't know that diamond sellers read these posts, ha, ha! It makes sense though. Anyhow . . . for some reason . . . I never looked at Whiteflash's Hearts and Arrows cut diamonds. Here is one that I found this morning that I like a lot. New comments? Regards, Brian
Posted: 4/21/2005 12:48:01 PM

P: 4/21/2005 8:42:46 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,582 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	very fine stone Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 4/21/2005 8:42:46 PM

P: 4/21/2005 8:53:34 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,918 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	That is a beauty!!! ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 4/21/2005 8:53:34 PM

P: 4/22/2005 4:40:25 PM
brian100 Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 4/27/2005 Member Since: 4/20/2005	Many thanks, all, for your helpful comments! Brian
Posted: 4/22/2005 4:40:25 PM

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