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Ok, what's the deal with milky diamonds??

P: 3/16/2005 4:18:05 AM
OObserver1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 3/16/2005 Member Since: 3/13/2005	Please don't think I'm totally nuts, but I'd like to know why a diamond is slighty milky?? What causes this? Is it worth buying a diamond that is slightly, but clearly milky if the price is very inexpensive?? ($2000 .96 marq. FWIW, This is the diamond I asked about in my first post.) It is rated SI2, but I question that. Any thoughts or comment are appreciated. Thank you! OO " You have to be a bit crazy to keep the insanity away."
Posted: 3/16/2005 4:18:05 AM

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P: 3/16/2005 4:24:58 AM
Shay Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/13/2008 Member Since: 12/2/2004	It was my understanding that a milky or cloudy appearance in certain light was due to a high flourescence. Personally I would rather have a smaller stone that sparkles and is eye clean than a large, milky stone although your preference is what matters. However if this stone is for your fiance to be then I would NOT buy a diamond that is obviously flawed. She may think you are cheap or did not bother to do your research. My opinion is hardly surprising though, just see my sig. Best of luck in your search.
Posted: 3/16/2005 4:24:58 AM

P: 3/16/2005 6:53:46 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 3/16/2005 4:18:5 AM Author:OObserver1 Is it worth buying a diamond that is slightly, but clearly milky if the price is very inexpensive?? ($2000 .96 marq. FWIW, This is the diamond I asked about in my first post.) It is rated SI2, but I question that. Yeah... it could be really, really strong fluorescence that give the haze, ot just miriads of inlcusions each too small to be seen under practical magnification (I think up to 250X is the limit to expect for the matter). Such inclusions would be described as "clouds" on the lab report for obvious reasons - that's how they look. It sometimes happens that such clouds are not dense enough to be easily discernible and there are no other inclusions. The size and dendity of the cloud would give the clarity grade. In a stone graded Si2 or I1 due to clouds only these would be visible like a haze. I don't have a good example at hand. Please find down this link a fancy light gray emerald cut graded I1 due to a cloud only. EGL's Si2 might be comparable to GIA's I1... This one is cloudy, but has no fluorescence. Which applies to your marquise: clouds or fluorescence or both ? What is "FWIW" ? As far as I can imagine, a couple of those letters read "fancy white" and the SI2 rating is due to clouds only. This is unusual allright. In the other post you cite "E-F" for color grade. What does the EGL paper say ? "Fancy white" diamonds are consideed collectable, but I have no idea how "hot" they are - perhaps comparable with brown diamonds (so lower, not higher priced than colorless). The body color (white or grayish) would matter in this case. Some pieces with only slight clouding show a bit of rainbow effect (like precious moonstone - but not as strong) and look quite nice. What is this piece like ? A slightly coudy SI2 with no other visible inclusions aside the haze sounds like good news to me (not undersirable for the clarity grade) - but I have not seen the stone, of course. I am not encouraging you to get this diamond. All depends on how how close or how far it is from what you want. Looking at the other post, the "replacement value" or near 10k must be a joke (perhaps not an unusual kind of statement, but really not relevant). The actual price seems in line with quotes given on Pricescope's database for E-F SI2 marquises next to 1 carat: there are several around $2500. Just my 0.2 of course. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 3/16/2005 6:53:46 AM

P: 3/16/2005 12:32:28 PM
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,677 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003	No, it's not worth it. The entire purpose of buying a diamond is to have something sparkly on your hand, and if you have a cloudy diamond then it defeats the purpose. It's like buying a shirt with an obvious stain on the front that cannot be washed out. Sure you got it for a low price, but do you really want to wear it outside?
Posted: 3/16/2005 12:32:28 PM

P: 3/16/2005 1:04:01 PM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,810 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	Also, if the diamond is really cloudy/milky everyone will notice this. Do you want your friends and family to be thinking, "yuck, that is one b*tt ugly diamond!"? I hope you decide to go down a bit in size to find a clear, gorgeous stone!
Posted: 3/16/2005 1:04:01 PM

P: 3/16/2005 5:23:15 PM
Rank Amateur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,547 Last Post: 5/5/2009 Member Since: 2/26/2003	FWIW - For What It's Worth Some of the pros on here have said that they have seen just a few diamonds in their careers in which the fluorescence causes a milky appearance. Maybe it is something else. Like a big fat nasty cloud. Run away!
Posted: 3/16/2005 5:23:15 PM

P: 3/16/2005 6:23:19 PM
OObserver1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 3/16/2005 Member Since: 3/13/2005	Thank you everyone for your responses. I passed on the diamond as it was too milky for me. As someone said, I want my wife to have a diamond everyone will say, WOW what a nice sparkling diamond!! Thank you so much for your viewpoints as they all comfimed my own. Good price but bad diamond. Peace. OO " You have to be a bit crazy to keep the insanity away."
Posted: 3/16/2005 6:23:19 PM

P: 3/16/2005 6:24:17 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 3/16/2005 5:23:15 PM Author: Rank Amateur FWIW - For What It's Worth Yiks ! Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 3/16/2005 6:24:17 PM

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