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| P: 3/13/2005 11:39:24 AM | |
OObserver1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 3/16/2005 Member Since: 3/13/2005 |
As my tenth anniversity comes near, I have an opportunity to buy a new diamond for my wife. I need all your imput as to how much I should pay for the diamond, info below: Following is the information on it: Marquise EGL Certified with certificate Weight: .96 carat Color: E-F Clarity: SI2 Girdle inscribed with EGL report #. Estimated retail replacement value $9,270.00 What would be a fair price? What would be a steal?? Honestly, I really do need and APPRECIATE your help. My wife will thank you too!! Michael " You have to be a bit crazy to keep the insanity away." |
| Posted: 3/13/2005 11:39:24 AM | |
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| P: 3/13/2005 11:43:52 AM | |
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,918 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Hopefully the marquise experts will chime in as I am not one of them, but I wish you luck and hope you find a beautiful marquise for your anniversary!!!
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 11:43:52 AM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 11:47:32 AM | |
Wink Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,032 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 5/4/2001 |
What would be a steal, for the jeweler, would be the $9,270. Personally I think it highly unethical for EGL to issue pricing with their paper. Especailly pricing so far from reality that even the Mall stores will use this price to sell against rather than an actual selling price. I will let others take the time to find you the best price for this stone, but I will take the time to tell you that that price has no reflection upon reality, and that is assuming that this paper is actually accurate as to the color and clarity grades, which it may or may not be depending on which EGL lab it came from and when... Wink Wink Jones |
| Posted: 3/13/2005 11:47:32 AM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 4:08:00 PM | |
cinnabar Cut Rock Total Posts: 386 Last Post: 6/25/2006 Member Since: 11/29/2004 |
Date: 3/13/2005 11:47:32 AM Author: Wink What would be a steal, for the jeweler, would be the $9,270. Personally I think it highly unethical for EGL to issue pricing with their paper. Especailly pricing so far from reality that even the Mall stores will use this price to sell against rather than an actual selling price. I will let others take the time to find you the best price for this stone, but I will take the time to tell you that that price has no reflection upon reality, and that is assuming that this paper is actually accurate as to the color and clarity grades, which it may or may not be depending on which EGL lab it came from and when... Wink Is the original post saying that EGL are giving a price, though? It sounds more like one of those over-inflated appraisals to me, probably issued by the vendor rather than EGL. The question being asked is just "what would be a fair price for this diamond?" as a point from which to start a discussion with the vendor. Isn't it?
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 4:08:00 PM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 4:27:11 PM | |
blueroses Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,219 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2004 |
How wonderful that you are upgrading your wife's ring for your anni!! Lucky Lady! I'm not sure if that was the EGL appraisal or a price, but if that's your actual BUDGET, you could get her a honkin' ROCK. Here's what I came up with just by PS-ing those very loose specs above. (First price is per carat, second is price of stone.) From a variety of vendors, but as you can see, paying almost 10k for that stone would be a steal......for the seller!! 0.97 F SI2 64.7% 60% GIA vt no gd gd no 8.90*5.36*3.47 $3714 $3602*S 0.97 F SI2 64.7% 60% GIA vt no gd gd no 8.90*5.36*3.47 $3849 $3734*S 0.97 F SI2 64.7% 60% GIA vt no gd gd no 8.90-5.36-3.47 $3870 $3754*SP 0.97 F SI2 64.7% 60% GIA vt no gd gd no 8.9x5.36x3.47 $3897 $3780*SP 0.97 F SI2 62.4% 55% EGL thn-f no vg vg no 5.02-10.77-3.13 $3047 $2956* 1.00 F SI2 67.3% 56% GIA - no gd gd mb 8.68*5.38*3.62 $3218 $3217*S 1.00 F SI2 66.5% 60% GIA - no gd gd no 9.41*5.20*3.47 $3218 $3217*S 1.00 F SI2 66.5% 60% GIA no gd gd 9.41x5.20x3.47 $3288 $3288S 1.00 F SI2 67.3% 56% GIA no gd gd 8.68x5.38x3.62 $3288 $3288S 1.00 F SI2 62.1% 56% GIA - no vg vg no 9.16*5.35*3.32 $3481 $3481*S 1.00 F SI2 62.1% 56% GIA no vg vg 9.16x5.35x3.32 $3557 $3557S 1.00 F SI2 66% 55% GIA m-tk f no gd vg no 9.96*5.21*3.44 $3692 $3692*S 1.00 F SI2 66% 55% GIA m-tk f no gd vg no 9.96-5.21-3.44 $3815 $3815* 1.00 F SI2 66% 55% GIA m-tk f no gd vg no 9.96*5.21*3.44 $3826 $3826*S 1.00 F SI2 66% 55% GIA m-tk f no gd vg no 9.96x5.21x3.44 $3840 $3840*SP 1.00 F SI2 66% 55% GIA m-tk f no gd vg no 9.96-5.21-3.44 $3848 $3848*SP 1.00 F SI2 65.9% 61% GIA thk-extremely t no gd vg no 9.44x4.95x3.26 $4104 $4104S 1.00 F SI2 68.5% 54% EGL - no gd gd ft 9.42*5.18*3.55 $2743 $2742*S
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 4:27:11 PM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 4:32:12 PM | |
pearcrazy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,438 Last Post: 11/27/2008 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
A search here on PS for marquise diamonds .94 to 1.05 E to F color and SI2 clarity produced a price range from $2500 to $3600. Most of those diamonds were GIA graded stones. EGL stones usually are a bit less expensive.
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 4:32:12 PM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 5:56:15 PM | |
noobie Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,318 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 3/3/2004 |
Date: 3/13/2005 4  80 PMAuthor: cinnabar Date: 3/13/2005 11:47:32 AM Author: Wink What would be a steal, for the jeweler, would be the $9,270. Personally I think it highly unethical for EGL to issue pricing with their paper. Especailly pricing so far from reality that even the Mall stores will use this price to sell against rather than an actual selling price. I will let others take the time to find you the best price for this stone, but I will take the time to tell you that that price has no reflection upon reality, and that is assuming that this paper is actually accurate as to the color and clarity grades, which it may or may not be depending on which EGL lab it came from and when... Wink Is the original post saying that EGL are giving a price, though? It sounds more like one of those over-inflated appraisals to me, probably issued by the vendor rather than EGL. The question being asked is just 'what would be a fair price for this diamond?' as a point from which to start a discussion with the vendor. Isn't it? I've seen EGL's with estimated values. I don't think they should be assigning retail values on certs as well.
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 5:56:15 PM | |
| P: 3/13/2005 9:50:24 PM | |
part gypsy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,755 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 11/7/2004 |
Just from a negotiating standpoint, is the vendor asking you to make the first offer (price) on the stone? You would be on much better footing if you first found out what is his starting price and (after being educated what are fair prices) you going from there. You should not be starting from that inflated price and working down.
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| Posted: 3/13/2005 9:50:24 PM | |
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