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P: 3/3/2005 8:34:55 PM
temple Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 3/3/2005 Member Since: 3/3/2005	The specs are: Round Cut Weight: 1.21ct Depth: 56.8% Table: 65% Crown: 29.5 degrees Pavilion: 41.1 degrees Girdle: Thing to slightly thick Culet: 0.8% Finish: Good/Good Clarity: VVS2 Color: E Fluorescence: None GIA certified, quote is at $9500. I'm scared of the table, but am a beginner. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:34:55 PM

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P: 3/3/2005 8:38:32 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	I think you made a mistake posting the depth and the table. Should be the other way around? ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:38:32 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:40:56 PM
bearman49 Rough Rock Total Posts: 49 Last Post: 3/3/2005 Member Since: 4/18/2004	I would stay away from this stone even if the numbers were backwards. Too deep or too shallow depending on which way you read the nubmers. The bearman
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:40:56 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:42:01 PM
temple Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 3/3/2005 Member Since: 3/3/2005	No they're correct.....probably not a good sign methinks?
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:42:01 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:43:57 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	This one is a no go!!! ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:43:57 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:45:53 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	Do you need help with internet vendors, or is this from a B&M? ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:45:53 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:46:07 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	That about as good as a spready diamond can get... I think It would be great to have an Ideal Scope image to look at given the unusual proportions (unusual relative to the AGS0 "usual" around here that is). The price tag is a bit much for "sight unseen" too. I would expect that one to look a bit larger than an "ideal" cut of the same weight. But then, the girdle appears thicker and that might just "wipe out" any such advantage. What is the diameter ? The price seem in line with F-VS1 H&A cut (which should present some advantage, unless your taste decides it does not). The color & clarity "drowp" would not make any difference to me. But that's just me, of course. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:46:07 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:46:43 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,227 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 3/3/2005 8:38:32 PM Author: kaleigh I think you made a mistake posting the depth and the table.  Should be the other way around? either way the specs don't look good on this one.don't know which is worst 65% depth or table it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:46:43 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:49:52 PM
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004	The table must be 65, based on crown angle and pavillion depth.....
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:49:52 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:50:12 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Since this set of numbers doesn't have too many fans... Here's why I didn't say it's "bad" Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:50:12 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:51:21 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	DF, I totally agree, just responded a little too quickly!! That trigger finger gets the best of me. You are absolutely right.!!! ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:51:21 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:52:21 PM
temple Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 3/3/2005 Member Since: 3/3/2005	Guess I need to learn the "lingo" a little That about as good as a spready diamond can get... I think "Spready"? What dat mean? It would be great to have an Ideal Scope image to look at given the unusual proportions (unusual relative to the AGS0 "usual" around here that is). The price tag is a bit much for "sight unseen" too. I would expect that one to look a bit larger than an "ideal" cut of the same weight. But then, the girdle appears thicker and that might just "wipe out" any such advantage. What is the diameter ? 7.097 Girdle is 1.69% The price seem in line with F-VS1 H&A cut (which should present some advantage, unless your taste decides it does not). The color & clarity "drowp" would not make any difference to me. But that's just me, of course. "Drwop"?
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:52:21 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:52:43 PM
temple Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 3/3/2005 Member Since: 3/3/2005	B&M
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:52:43 PM

P: 3/3/2005 8:53:27 PM
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004	So, Ana it would have the spread or diameter of a diamond of what size????
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:53:27 PM

P: 3/4/2005 4:10:48 AM
Paul-Antwerp Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,912 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/3/2002	The stone has a fairly good pavilion angle, which contributes to the return of white light, hence a very good score on that part of the HCA. The crown however is extremely thin, with a very low crown angle, in order to get the table as small as possible, and still ending up with a way too large table. Result, almost no fire or scintillation. On the other hand, with total depth being low, you have a higher diameter than with a well-cut stone, and it will definitely be noticeable, if you put it on a table up-side-down next to an ideal. If you will see that higher diameter in normal viewing conditions, remains a big question mark, since it is highly probably that light leakage around the girdle will make this stone look smaller than it actually is. On top of that, GIA only gave it Good on Polish and on Symmetry, so one can expect negative effects on performance on account of both these issues. Therefore, if cut (or light performance) is of any interest to you, I would not consider this stone. If however, you prefer to have the higher colour and clarity, and do not care about cut, then this might be a good choice for you. Live long, Paul Slegers Infinity Diamonds www.CraftedByInfinity.com
Posted: 3/4/2005 4:10:48 AM

P: 3/4/2005 4:37:50 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 3/3/2005 8:52:21 PM Author: temple 'Spready'? = diameter larger than expected for AGS0 proportions and given weight. In this case, diameter is 7mm and that corresponds to what one "ideal" round of 1.25cts should be. I didn't know the actual size (=diameter) of your stone when I called it "spready". The relatively shallow cut doesn't seem to have delivered a large-looking stone after all. 'Drwop'? = typo (darn!), stand-in for "drop". All in all, Paul says it all allot better than I could Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 3/4/2005 4:37:50 AM

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