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 Which is the better daylight photo?

P:  1/31/2005 11:28:03 PM  
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Rough Rock
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Hi

Please advise on 3 daylight photos of the same stone attached here - what is right and what is wrong and how can they be improved.

Thank you.

Soon.

No.1


No.2


No. 3

 


Soon
Posted:  1/31/2005 11:28:03 PM

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P: 1/31/2005 11:47:41 PM
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Rough Rock
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#2 & #3 seem overexposed to me.  I prefer #1 because it shows the true nature of the stone.  That being said, at such high zoom, I am sure it would face up nicely.

Out of curiosity, do you know the depth of that stone?  It appears to have a fisheye.

Posted:  1/31/2005 11:47:41 PM
P: 1/31/2005 11:54:26 PM
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Rough Rock
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Hi

The depth of the stone is 3.55.

Soon

Posted:  1/31/2005 11:54:26 PM
P: 2/1/2005 12:06:00 AM
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#1 the better picture.
2 and 3 the exposure wasnt right or there was too much light.

In the first picture one side of the stone is getting more light than the rest.
Trying for more even lighting will help.

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  2/1/2005 12:06:00 AM
P: 2/1/2005 1:23:35 AM
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Date: 1/31/2005 11:54:26 PM
Author: Soon
Hi

The depth of the stone is 3.55. 

Heh, I was thinking more the percentage.  Did you have all the relevant specs on the stone?  Looks like an SI stone possibly?

Posted:  2/1/2005 1:23:35 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:03:42 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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Backlight is good for inclusions, but it is bad for cut beauty

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Posted:  2/1/2005 11:03:42 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:13:53 AM
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These make great substitutes for the clarity plots... but it takes fantesy to associate the futuristic "tatoo design" with a diamond, in my opinion. 

Face down photos are great adds for terrific optical symmetry and H&A, but when those are not the issue... what do these tell me (aside clarity) ? 

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  2/1/2005 11:13:53 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:19:01 AM
Hest88
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I like the first one best.

Posted:  2/1/2005 11:19:01 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:26:25 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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This took 3 minutes and is pretty rough.
Need that depth % and girdle thickness helps.

A long way from a fisheye.
 

 

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Posted:  2/1/2005 11:26:25 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:39:56 AM
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Gary ... you're such a show-off.

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Posted:  2/1/2005 11:39:56 AM
P: 2/1/2005 11:43:28 AM
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Date: 2/1/2005 11:26:25 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

This took 3 minutes and is pretty rough.

Wait a minute... even secondary reflections seem to match to a tee. Why is it "rough"   just because it took so little time

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  2/1/2005 11:43:28 AM
P: 2/1/2005 7:43:40 PM
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Thanks to all your input.

So, should I use backlight or not? What are you guys looking for in a daylight picture?

Please be specific. Thanks.

Soon

Posted:  2/1/2005 7:43:40 PM
P: 2/2/2005 3:32:08 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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Back light for identifying inclusions
No back light at all to see how good the light return is (unless your initials are DL)

What are the stones dimensions and proportions?

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Posted:  2/2/2005 3:32:08 AM
P: 2/2/2005 4:06:18 AM
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Please do not get offended, Is this a real diamond???

Cause if it is, the picture does not complement it!!!


Just curious,


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Posted:  2/2/2005 4:06:18 AM
P: 2/2/2005 5:03:31 AM
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Inclusions?  Or dust?

Posted:  2/2/2005 5:03:31 AM
P: 2/2/2005 6:27:32 PM
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Rough Rock
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It's a real one. My lens is kinda sharp - it will show any dust, inclusion or flaws on the stone. What do buyers, appraisers or manufacturers or labs looking for in a daylight photo? Do they want to see a realistic or a 'pretty-looking' one which i can use software to touch up.

Soon

Posted:  2/2/2005 6:27:32 PM
P: 2/9/2005 3:04:58 AM
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If you are using these to sell, do not electronically "touch up" the diamond image.  I wouldn't trust any source that I caught doing that, even if it was just removing dust.

Posted:  2/9/2005 3:04:58 AM

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