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Besidesa diamond - what stone round would you pick for a solitaire ? |
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| P: 1/19/2005 11:22:41 PM | |
treysar Ideal Rock Total Posts: 935 Last Post: 4/29/2009 Member Since: 6/5/2004 |
PARDON THE GRAMMAR IN THE SUBJECT - I meant a round stone, not a stone round. Duh. I have my old solitaire mounting and I want to put a stone in it - any suggestions of what would look nice as a solitaire? :) Thanks!
***2 one way tickets and a diamond ring, hell it don't matter what the rain might bring...*** |
| Posted: 1/19/2005 11:22:41 PM | |
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| P: 1/19/2005 11:24:31 PM | |
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
sapphire ruby spinel zircon and dozen of others. For everyday wear the first 3 will hold up a little better but zircon isnt bad. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 1/19/2005 11:24:31 PM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 12:20:38 AM | |
Emeraldgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 470 Last Post: 3/29/2005 Member Since: 11/11/2004 |
What's your favourite colour? Or do you have a particular colour in mind?Is always a good starting point. Also what metal is the setting WG? YG? Plat? When the doors of perception are cleansed people will see things as they truely are - Jim Morrison |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 12:20:38 AM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 9:47:06 AM | |
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treysar Ideal Rock Total Posts: 935 Last Post: 4/29/2009 Member Since: 6/5/2004 |
Jeez - what a hack job on the grammar in my subject! Anyway, it's a white gold 6 prong catherdral setting - very simple. i've never seen a solitaire colored stone - usually they are set with side stones or othre details in a setting. I'm wondering if I should just set it with a fake diamond. I love the color red, but where can I get a really pretty red stone? It seems like all the red stones are really expensive. And I mean true red, not pink at all. Maybe blue - that cornflower thread is pretty. ***2 one way tickets and a diamond ring, hell it don't matter what the rain might bring...*** |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 9:47:06 AM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 9:55:34 AM | |
Cath Cut Rock Total Posts: 373 Last Post: 8/17/2005 Member Since: 9/29/2004 |
Treysar, have you looked at red spinels? I don't know what your budget is and what size stone you're looking for, but red spinels come in beautiful, TRUE red colors and at a very decent price, IMO.
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| Posted: 1/20/2005 9:55:34 AM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 11:35:26 AM | |
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003 |
I fogot the size of your diamond but one of the vendors here has a deep red spinel, 1.07 ct for under $80. I hope he doesn't mind that I posted the pic here -- it's from Diamond Expert's site. ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 11:35:26 AM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 11:58:31 AM | |
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treysar Ideal Rock Total Posts: 935 Last Post: 4/29/2009 Member Since: 6/5/2004 |
oooh, that is NICE! Do you think a 6 prong for a round could fit an oval? I would love that! Especially set e/w!
***2 one way tickets and a diamond ring, hell it don't matter what the rain might bring...*** |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 11:58:31 AM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 12:17:36 PM | |
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Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003 |
Ack, I don't know nothin' about settin' gems but it measures 7.07 x 6.05 x 2.87mm if that's of any help. Diamondexpert or someone else who does setting can advise you.
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| Posted: 1/20/2005 12:17:36 PM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 12:29:19 PM | |
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,680 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
That spinel is lovely. I'd also look into red garnets if that falls through. I'm not someone who's attracted to fine rubies; I tend to like the black undertones of red garnets or less expensive rubies/red spinels. You can get something pretty large for very little moolah if prefer the same red tones I do.
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| Posted: 1/20/2005 12:29:19 PM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 6:32:39 PM | |
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Emeraldgirl Cut Rock Total Posts: 470 Last Post: 3/29/2005 Member Since: 11/11/2004 |
Date: 1/20/2005 11:58:31 AM Author: treysar oooh, that is NICE! Do you think a 6 prong for a round could fit an oval? I would love that! Especially set e/w! You could always have a new head made if need be and that stone that Matata poste is fantastic. When the doors of perception are cleansed people will see things as they truely are - Jim Morrison |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 6:32:39 PM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 7:44:53 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
The ring was intended for a stone of about 6-7mm no ? 'Guess a round or roundish oval or square cushion would fit. I would probably vote for a spinel (anywhere from red pink or red) or green garnet is something can be found well cut of recut. The reds by "Spinel" on this forum seem interesting. There are quite a few tsavorite and spinel that might fit listed on the usual AJS and Multicolour. And the posts from "Imperialjewels" brought that store up my list - they seem to have nice pieces in the "fun to wear" category. There's some fresh light & bright pink spinel on gemwow.com... (some of these picked below  )How about pearls ? Last summer I came accross a very beautiful piece of the simplest design - basically a large pearl hung on the finger with nothing else around - definitely an eye catcher evening piece.  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 1/20/2005 7:44:53 PM | |
| P: 1/20/2005 11:00:41 PM | |
innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,923 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003 |
Hello Treysar, I'd probabaly go with a sapphire ( any color) or a spinel if your going to be wearing it a lot. Otherwise I've always liked aquamarines.
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| Posted: 1/20/2005 11:00:41 PM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 12:15:40 AM | |
movie zombie Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,217 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2005 |
well, i've been "lurking" around pricescope for about a month now mostly trying to get "educated" re diamonds but also re color stones....and i've learned lots.....thank you to everyone, especially those of you in california that made some bay area [and an aptos] recommendation re jewelers. but don't you know it, i have a commitment problem 'cause i just love those color gems just as much...perhaps more so. so what's a girl to do?! more research and going to b&m's for an eye candy fix.....looking at those color gems in the little black box all lined up and sparkly is simply better than chocolate! i'll take one of each, please! seriously: i have discovered orange garnets and would suggest that a lovely spessartite could be really yummy as a solitaire. my only hesitation is that i'm not sure even with a bezel that the stone is tough and hard enough for every day wear and tear. "I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 12:15:40 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 1:16:59 AM | |
Richard M. Ideal Rock Total Posts: 929 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2004 |
Hest and Treysar, Yes, garnet's a great choice for a red stone -- especially fine chrome pyrope garnet. It's the only true red garnet because it's colored by chromium which is also the chromophore in ruby. It's very pretty and reasonably priced. Most other reddish garnets are colored by iron. The main source is the American Southwest where it's called "anthill" garnet because prospectors often find small bits in anthills, telling them they're in a producing area. It's found over a fairly large region of Arizona, Utah and New Mexico but the main producing area is the Apache Indian reservation in Arizona. Large cut stones can become too dark so it's best in sizes under 5 mm. Another interesting possibility in red is Oregon sunstone. The pure reds in this material are beautiful but they're also quite difficult to find and pricey. I haven't located a good red sunstone image but will post one if I find it. Richard M.  |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 1:16:59 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 1:40:10 AM | |
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movie zombie Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,217 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2005 |
pictures aren't big but this is a great library: http://www.gemstone.org/gem-library/sunstone.htm?choices=sunstone.htm&x=12&y=12 i really like sunstone number 010 and only wish i could figure out a way to enlarge the picture....being a mere user and not a techie doesn't help. forget what website i was on earlier today but i was looking at the oregon sunstone. i'll see if i can find it. my concern was that it would not be hard and tough enough for every day wear..... "I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 1:40:10 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 1:56:02 AM | |
Colored Gemstone Nut Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,267 Last Post: 10/1/2009 Member Since: 11/21/2002 |
Another interesting possibility in red is Oregon sunstone. The pure reds in this material are beautiful but they're also quite difficult to find and pricey. I haven't located a good red sunstone image but will post one if I find it. Hey Richard: Here's a Beautiful example a 7.07 ct. Sunstone...   Josh Rioux |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 1:56:02 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 2:12:39 AM | |
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Richard M. Ideal Rock Total Posts: 929 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2004 |
Wear and tear can be a concern but it's an individual thing. Some people wear tanzanite daily with no problems, others need recuts fairly often. Yes, sunstone is probably a bit on the "tender" side for everyday wear, especially since it's a feldspar which is prone to cleaving. But certain people prize it very highly and seek it out for jewelry. Different strokes and all that... If hardness/durability is the major concern you're left with corundum (ruby and sapphire), and diamond, including colored diamonds. Chrysoberyl (alexandrite, cat's-eye and yellow chrysoberyl) also has very respectable hardness, as does spinel. Those stones offer lots of color choices but have some drawbacks of their own such as treatments and very high prices, especially for rubies, alexandrites and colored diamonds. Spinels, sunstones and garnets are generally untreated in any way except for heating in the case of demantoid and occasional oiling with spinel. Just some random thoughts for your consideration... Richard M. |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 2:12:39 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 2:14:29 AM | |
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Richard M. Ideal Rock Total Posts: 929 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2004 |
Beautiful, Tony...er, Josh. That's exactly the color I had in mind. What a great image! Richard M. |
| Posted: 1/21/2005 2:14:29 AM | |
| P: 1/21/2005 11:39:56 AM | |
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innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,923 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003 |
Movie Zombie, I love those orange spessartites too. You know what I love are those purple sapphires. They are less expensive obviously than the blue ones and some are just beautiful shades of purple. Someday I have to have one.
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| Posted: 1/21/2005 11:39:56 AM | |
| P: 1/22/2005 6:50:57 PM | |
raddygast Cut Rock Total Posts: 179 Last Post: 12/4/2006 Member Since: 10/20/2004 |
I hate to be a naysayer, but I'd just like to chime in on the issue of looking for "true red" in a spinel. Be prepared for disappointment. Unless you are a) willing to be *very* patient, b) willing to work your butt off with the legwork, and c) willing to pay significantly high prices, you won't be finding a "true red" spinel anytime soon. Unless by true red you mean something without pink undertones, which is easily achieved if you go the darker, iron-rich, garnety red variety (which is very cheap, fairly abundant, and certainly not pink). However, if you want a red that just screams red, oozes crimson like a traffic light, and so forth, be prepared to fork over the benjamins. It is perhaps sad but also very understandable that the color red is the head honcho of colored gems. Pretty much ANY gemstone that comes in red is well received, and the red varieties are often scarce; at least I believe it's true for rubellite tourmaline, and certainly spinel and ruby. Garnets never achieve the kind of red I'm talking about. Oregon sunstone, as was mentioned, can be vividly red (though typically somewhat more orangeish, I believe, than straight red) but it is extremely hard to find in those top color specimens. The same is true a hundredfold for spinel. Even if you're willing to pay, you will have to be referred in the right circles or simply wait a great deal of time until something really amazing comes your way. It's too bad, but that's red for you. I think on Richard Hughes' site, there is a quote from a Burmese miner that goes: "To ask to see the true pigeon's blood (red color) is to ask to see the face of god."
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| Posted: 1/22/2005 6:50:57 PM | |
| P: 1/23/2005 1:32:26 AM | |
tiptoe Rough Rock Total Posts: 15 Last Post: 1/28/2005 Member Since: 1/22/2005 |
Pink's very "in" now. How about a fancy cut pink topaz? Something like this?
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| Posted: 1/23/2005 1:32:26 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2005 1:45:20 AM | |
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tiptoe Rough Rock Total Posts: 15 Last Post: 1/28/2005 Member Since: 1/22/2005 |
I went through a pink period, morganite, kunzite, pink topaz. Now I'm completely enamored with green amethyst. It's a lovely,soft green.
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| Posted: 1/23/2005 1:45:20 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2005 2:12:41 AM | |
MJO Ideal Rock Total Posts: 661 Last Post: 3/28/2008 Member Since: 11/3/2004 |
Hi Tiptoe, As far as I know there is no green amythest. Amythest is a purple/violet quartz so green amythest is green quartz.
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| Posted: 1/23/2005 2:12:41 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2005 5:12:51 AM | |
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Colored Gemstone Nut Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,267 Last Post: 10/1/2009 Member Since: 11/21/2002 |
Hey Tiptoe: Vermarine, also known as Prasiolite or "Greened" amethyst a light to medium green quartz produced by careful heating of amethyst (purple Quartz) from one location which is the Montezuma mine in Minas Gerais, Brazil . The color produced by heating is known to be permanent and stable displaying lighter shades to a deep velvety green. I think some of the confusion is the color in this variety of gem is produced by originally heating amethyst which results in this color variety and is often termed “Old World Amethyst” A little confusing but hope this makes things more clear. Enjoy the pic..   Josh Rioux |
| Posted: 1/23/2005 5:12:51 AM | |
| P: 6/3/2005 6:05:32 PM | |
al88 Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/7/2005 Member Since: 5/10/2005 |
it is beautiful: how much does it cost ? where to buy large red sunstone ( the ideal would be rough red sunstone)
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| Posted: 6/3/2005 6:05:32 PM | |
| P: 6/4/2005 7:03:26 AM | |
Sasori Cut Rock Total Posts: 100 Last Post: 10/24/2007 Member Since: 7/21/2004 |
I would consider a blue concave cut sapphire for an alternative round solitaire. Maximum brillance, BLUE FIRE! Cool...
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| Posted: 6/4/2005 7:03:26 AM | |
| P: 6/4/2005 7:58:57 AM | |
WTNLVR Ideal Rock Total Posts: 623 Last Post: 1/9/2009 Member Since: 1/30/2005 |
Here is a 1 ct spessartite garnet that is a reddish color vs. orange. very pretty and very cheap. Otherwise, I'd go with a blue zircon- Actually I had one set in a solitaire setting and it looked great. |
| Posted: 6/4/2005 7:58:57 AM | |
| P: 6/4/2005 9:56:52 PM | |
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al88 Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/7/2005 Member Since: 5/10/2005 |
dear joe where did u get the sunstone ? what is the price ? very beautiful I am looking for either the red or the deep orangey red sunstone , oval shape :around 17x13 mm
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| Posted: 6/4/2005 9:56:52 PM | |
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