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 Best pink stone to match white diamond?

P:  1/18/2005 5:08:39 PM  
marqoid
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I am putting together an eternity band for my fiance.  We are planning a .5ctw in a platinum shared prong setting.  Most of the stones will be white diamond, but we want to replace every fourth stone with a pink.  At first I was only looking at pink stones because I wanted the best, but pink melee are really tough to find.  Then I figured sapphire would be too bad, it is cheaper and easily available.  Now I spoke with a jeweler who said he wouldn't use sapphire.  Rather, he suggested pink spinel, tourmaline, or zircon.  His explanation was that each of these have a structure more similar to diamond than sapphire.  Which is the best? 
Posted:  1/18/2005 5:08:39 PM

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P: 1/18/2005 5:47:53 PM
valeria101
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Don't understand the case for tourmaline or zircon (unless that is CZ, not the natural gem): zircon is way soft and tourmaline not that brilliant. Spinel would be as hard as sapphire and possibly better pink in small size and a bit brighter - that one I understand.

If any other color but pink is accepatble, color treated diamonds seem a pretty good idea to me - if the jeweler can supply good quality ones (meaning clean and well cut).

Actually, how about this one:


perhaps you could have the design changes to fir the plan just so as well

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  1/18/2005 5:47:53 PM
P: 1/18/2005 7:17:02 PM
Fuffi
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I agree with Ana. I can't imagine why a jeweler wouldn't recommend sapphire over any another colored gemstone for everyday wear. Spinel would be my second choice.

Fuffi, G.G., A.J.P.

Posted:  1/18/2005 7:17:02 PM
P: 1/18/2005 8:04:04 PM
marqoid
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Yes, I do like that ring that you pictured.  But, I think that is too much pink; I would prefer one pink stone to three white and I would use a more subtle pink.  More like fancy pink or even light pink, but nothing that vivid.
Was that ring from facets?

Another question:
Any opinion on using a shared prong for only .5ctw?  Some say that the prongs will cover too much of such a small stone.  Others have suggested that it would be too dainty and ultimately fragile.

Posted:  1/18/2005 8:04:04 PM
P: 1/18/2005 8:32:49 PM
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For durability and scintillation, I don't see why pink sapphires wouldn't work well...

Gary

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Posted:  1/18/2005 8:32:49 PM
P: 1/18/2005 11:06:01 PM
Georg
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Hi Marqoid,
I must agree with the others why not use sapphire for durability and why screw up diamond ring with cz or even with semiprecious?
I also understand why your jeweler does not want to use pink sapphire in this size , because pink sapphire in this size will look flat  next to the diamond if cut to match.
I think you will be able to find what you need in natural pink damond . be prepared to pay a bit more but pink accent diamonds are not as rare as the pink ones 20 points and up.
I estimated you possibly need only 5 stones of .03ct each. am I right?  Or possibly .02ct each I am sure you can find these on Ebay or when worse comes to worse 
check out Thaigem.com . they should carry natural or treated pink diamonds or at least they used to years ago,... 
I wasnt you to know that I don't normaly cecommand Thaigem because of past bad experiences with them over a colored stone grading but I don't think they can screw up on diamond accents,...
George

 

Posted:  1/18/2005 11:06:01 PM
P: 1/19/2005 12:57:18 AM
marqoid
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Thanks for the input.  Yes, I will need about 10, 0.015 stones.
I didn't see much on tahigem.com but will check ebay.  I am having some trouble finding diamond accents, I have found one (maybe two) that can supply them at a price of $2400-3600/ct.

Posted:  1/19/2005 12:57:18 AM
P: 1/19/2005 1:33:12 AM
Georg
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yeah, 15 points at 2400/ct is $360 Too expensive?

Posted:  1/19/2005 1:33:12 AM
P: 1/19/2005 4:58:45 PM
marqoid
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No, I was actually pretty excited about that price.  However I was told that they will come down in price considerably after Valentines Day; is that true? Now my concern is making sure they match for setting in an eternity band.

Posted:  1/19/2005 4:58:45 PM
P: 1/19/2005 6:41:24 PM
valeria101
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Date: 1/19/2005 4:58:45 PM
Author: marqoid
Now my concern is making sure they match for setting in an eternity band.

Well, are these calibrated ?
 It would be safest to have the supplier of the stones be the maker of the ring, or at least talk with the maker. IMO at least.

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  1/19/2005 6:41:24 PM
P: 1/19/2005 7:48:54 PM
Wink
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RE: No, I was actually pretty excited about that price.  However I was told that they will come down in price considerably after Valentines Day; is that true? Now my concern is making sure they match for setting in an eternity band.
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I have sold .05ct stones for $7,200 per carat for nice stones, so that price does sound very good to me, especially if they are a nice color.  I would expect them to be a little less than the $7,200 in the size that you are getting, but have never sold any that small so I really don´t know, but it sure sounds like a fair price to me.

I do not believe that pink diamonds will cmome down in price after Valentines day.  Was that a jeweler or a friend telling you that?

Wink (currently in Chile, it might be a day or two before I say your reply.)

Wink Jones
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Posted:  1/19/2005 7:48:54 PM
P: 1/21/2005 3:38:23 AM
marqoid
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Yes, that was a jeweler.  In fact, the same jeweler that quote me the price of $2400/ct.  He said that he just got a new price sheet from his supplier and that if I could wait until march he could almost garuntee a couple hundred less per carat.

Posted:  1/21/2005 3:38:23 AM

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