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please please please help |
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| P: 1/12/2005 7:45:48 PM | |
lilyeternity Rough Rock Total Posts: 29 Last Post: 3/4/2005 Member Since: 12/22/2004 |
opinions on this diamond 1.82 Round Brilliant F VS 2 Depth - 59.7 Table - 57 Thin to Medium 7.98x8.01x4.77 crown angle - 34.2 pav angle - 42.5
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| Posted: 1/12/2005 7:45:48 PM | |
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| P: 1/12/2005 7:59:25 PM | |
pearcrazy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,438 Last Post: 11/27/2008 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
I entered your information into the Holloway cut advisor and I got a message that said that the "depth percentage I entered suggests that the girdle is dangerously thin or that the information is incorrect".
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| Posted: 1/12/2005 7:59:25 PM | |
| P: 1/12/2005 8:00:14 PM | |
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004 |
Is that the pavillion depth or percentage?
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| Posted: 1/12/2005 8:00:14 PM | |
| P: 1/12/2005 11:50:35 PM | |
RockDoc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,509 Last Post: 6/17/2007 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Date: 1/12/2005 8  0:14 PMAuthor: Maxine Is that the pavillion depth or percentage? It is obviously the total depth percentage .. A stone with a 59 % pavilion depth would look like a turnip. Rockdoc
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| Posted: 1/12/2005 11:50:35 PM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 9:12:00 AM | |
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Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004 |
Sorry...is it pavillion ANGLE or pavillion depth.....???
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 9:12:00 AM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 10:51:12 AM | |
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EZ-Monet Rough Rock Total Posts: 37 Last Post: 2/18/2005 Member Since: 9/15/2004 |
If the value is Pavilion Percentage (%), then it is potentially a very nice stone. HCA = 0.6, Ex/Ex/Ex/Ex EZ-Monet |
| Posted: 1/13/2005 10:51:12 AM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 11:29:12 AM | |
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lilyeternity Rough Rock Total Posts: 29 Last Post: 3/4/2005 Member Since: 12/22/2004 |
1.82 Round Brilliant - VS2 F 7.99x8.01x4.77 total depth - 59.4 table - 57 crown angle - 34.2 crown height - 14.5 pav angle - 40.6 pav depth - 42.5 Girdle - thin to medium
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 11:29:12 AM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 11:36:56 AM | |
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Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004 |
That's better!!! Sounds good....have you seen it?
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 11:36:56 AM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 11:42:30 AM | |
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lilyeternity Rough Rock Total Posts: 29 Last Post: 3/4/2005 Member Since: 12/22/2004 |
no - is it a stone worth seeing? what questions should i ask about the stone?
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 11:42:30 AM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 2:13:52 PM | |
10X Rough Rock Total Posts: 56 Last Post: 7/19/2005 Member Since: 4/23/2004 |
Hi Lilyeternity, You should ask about the nature, location and visibility of the inclusions. Being a VS2 it should be eye-clean but it is always good to ask especially for larger stones. Also ask for a copy of the certificate to verify the inclusion description. You may also want to inquire if they have any additional technologies (i.e. IdealScope and BrillianceScope) that might give you a better idea of the performance of the stone. Pictures too. Good luck in your search
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 2:13:52 PM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 4:26:30 PM | |
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Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004 |
Have you seen any of those pictures?
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| Posted: 1/13/2005 4:26:30 PM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 4:44:39 PM | |
Rhino Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,865 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 3/29/2001 |
The numbers sound very good. My concern with a diamond with these numbers would not be how it performed in direct light conditions but diffuse light conditions. 40.6 pavilion angles coupled with 34.2 crown angles dangers on causing too much head obstruction in diffuse light conditions with the primary observance is that of lights and darks. Too many darks can cause an unpleasant appearance. In direct lighting it will be one of the most fiery stones you'll see though. Here are 2 possibilities of what you may have here. This first flavor is the proportions you've given coupled with lower girdles and stars that are of the "short/short" variety (ie. short stars approx. 45% coupled with short lower girdles 76%). This shows a good saturation of dark reds but not as many blacks (which you'll observe in the next graphic). More dark reds can sometimes compensate for lack of blacks however a personal inspection of the diamond would be required. Rhino |
| Posted: 1/13/2005 4:44:39 PM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 4:47:46 PM | |
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Rhino Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,865 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 3/29/2001 |
Here is the same combination of proportions except now the lower girdles and stars are of the longer variety. 82% lower girdle depth coupled with 60% stars. Note this produces more blacks which means if you would compare the 2 examples given you would find this diamond to be more "sparkly" in direct light conditions. I can not tell you exactly where this stone falls in the grand scheme of things but this is as far as we can take it based on the limited info given. Hope that helps. Peace, Rhino |
| Posted: 1/13/2005 4:47:46 PM | |
| P: 1/13/2005 4:48:34 PM | |
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Rhino Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,865 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 3/29/2001 |
oops... forgot the graphic.   Rhino |
| Posted: 1/13/2005 4:48:34 PM | |
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