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 EGL Foreign vs. GIA

P:  1/12/2005 5:10:58 PM  
Brian Knox
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There are always posters asking about EGL foreign labs and how the grades compare against GIA graded diamonds.

Here is an actual example of a diamond that had been submitted to both labs ( GIA and EGL Israel (I think)

I offer this with no malice, but simply as an educational post for the benefit of PS readers.

LAB                    COLOR    CLARITY     CURRENT RAP PRICE PER CARAT

GIA                         G            I-1            $4200
EGL FOREIGN            F            SI-2          $6900





Brian Knox
Posted:  1/12/2005 5:10:58 PM

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P: 1/12/2005 5:11:58 PM
Brian Knox
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Heres the EGL...
 

 

Brian Knox

Posted:  1/12/2005 5:11:58 PM
P: 1/12/2005 5:37:51 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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This stone is another example Brian - we keep one of these in each of my 2 stores as a little "buyer beware" lesson. I paid 1/2 half as much for the EGL stone as the one on the left - the dealer market is not silly, but consumers can be
 

 

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Posted:  1/12/2005 5:37:51 PM
P: 1/12/2005 5:46:49 PM
Rank Amateur
Rank Amateur

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A sample size of one is dangerously small!

Posted:  1/12/2005 5:46:49 PM
P: 1/12/2005 5:55:55 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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It is 3 so far RA.
I also submitted a stone when I was in Israel to EGL some years ago and got a silly grade.
Local folklaw suggests you can send the stone in a rivka and they will grade it at what is written on the paper flap. I do not think that would be true as they should be running a blind book in facility.

But what is really scary is that EGL have the SI3 grade and that is supposed to mean that they can run a tighter SI2 because the border line stones are called SI3.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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Posted:  1/12/2005 5:55:55 PM
P: 1/12/2005 6:01:32 PM
DiamondLil
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EGL-USA gets a bad rap from many here.  I'd love to see the same stone again submitted to EGL-USA to see where it comes out.

DiamondLil

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Posted:  1/12/2005 6:01:32 PM
P: 1/12/2005 6:12:01 PM
denverappraiser
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Brian,

I notice that, in addition to the clarity and color, the two reports also differ on Width, Depth, Girdle, Polish, and Symmetry.

Neil Beaty
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Posted:  1/12/2005 6:12:01 PM
P: 1/12/2005 6:12:48 PM
cmargosi
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Thanks to all.  Proceeding with extreme caution.

Charles

Posted:  1/12/2005 6:12:48 PM
P: 1/12/2005 6:21:59 PM
Brian Knox
Brian Knox

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Hi Neil,

You know what the say about reports.

There are a few facts, everything else is an opinion.

The date is a fact, one hopes that the weight is a fact, past that , there are only approximations and opinions.



It does bother me that we can send a man to the moon but cannot get the labs to agree on measurements.

Although, I don't lose as much sleep over it as I used to.

Brian Knox

Posted:  1/12/2005 6:21:59 PM

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