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| P: 12/23/2004 5:03:11 AM | |
rosy Cut Rock Total Posts: 422 Last Post: 1/29/2006 Member Since: 10/7/2004 |
Hi, I was at a jewelry store today looking at diamonds. The jeweler showed me two stones. One was an H colored diamond, the other an F colored diamond. By looking at the specs on the H colored diamond I could tell it was better cut than the F. It also sparkled more than the F. But somehow I still liked the F better. Has anyone experienced this before? Is it possible that sometimes color can take precedence over cut? Is cut really always king??
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 5:03:11 AM | |
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| P: 12/23/2004 6:40:22 AM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Would a better cut F answer this question ? It is way harder to change the color of a diamond than to polish those facets a bit more  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 12/23/2004 6:40:22 AM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 12:28:51 PM | |
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rosy Cut Rock Total Posts: 422 Last Post: 1/29/2006 Member Since: 10/7/2004 |
Date: 12/23/2004 6:40:22 AM Author: valeria101 Would a better cut F answer this question ? It is way harder to change the color of a diamond than to polish those facets a bit more I suppose an ideal cut F would be the hands down winner but if you were presented with an ideal cut H vs a slightly less than ideal F which would you choose?
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 12:28:51 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 12:54:45 PM | |
cflutist Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,370 Last Post: 7/20/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2004 |
If you did not know which one was F and which one was H, and you didn't know what all the numbers were, and you looked at them side by side, which stone is more beautiful? Why did you like the F more than H? Was it because the lab report said F and F is still in the colorless range, or was it a more beautiful stone? Answers to these questions will help you make your choice.
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 12:54:45 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 1:30:51 PM | |
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rosy Cut Rock Total Posts: 422 Last Post: 1/29/2006 Member Since: 10/7/2004 |
It's because a lower color diamond will show it's body color when you're in the shade or when theres absence of light. Everyone says that a better cut diamond will mask it's color but isn't that only when there's light present? An F color will pretty much look good whether or not theres a lot of light shining on it. & yes I could definitely see the difference in color & did not like the darkness or warmth of the H.
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 1:30:51 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 1:46:43 PM | |
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,681 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
Buy the one you like better, regardless of what others may like.
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 1:46:43 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 3:42:47 PM | |
codex57 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,492 Last Post: 1/21/2008 Member Since: 12/18/2004 |
Date: 12/23/2004 1:46:43 PM Author: Hest88 Buy the one you like better, regardless of what others may like. I agree. Get the one you'll be happy with. Well, you think she'll be happy with. Can you see teh color differences? If not, then go for the cut since you say it sparkles more.
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 3:42:47 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 4:16:51 PM | |
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
Meet in the middle and get a G?
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 4:16:51 PM | |
| P: 12/23/2004 8:41:39 PM | |
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,866 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003 |
For sure buy the one you like more. One of my diamonds is a D and it sparkles very nicely. It's not cut as well as my G stone but it's cut near ideal and still is very beautiful. I'd definely choose the F if the stone is near ideal and gorgeous. If it's dull, I'd go for the H, but it sounds like you like whiter stones, so your other option is to continue looking.
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| Posted: 12/23/2004 8:41:39 PM | |
| P: 12/24/2004 3:35:59 PM | |
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rosy Cut Rock Total Posts: 422 Last Post: 1/29/2006 Member Since: 10/7/2004 |
Date: 12/23/2004 4:16:51 PM Is there a big difference in the color of an F vs. a G, since you're going from colorless to near colorless?
Author: moremoremore Meet in the middle and get a G?
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| Posted: 12/24/2004 3:35:59 PM | |
| P: 12/27/2004 7:43:06 PM | |
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codex57 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,492 Last Post: 1/21/2008 Member Since: 12/18/2004 |
I can spot an F colored stone. Well, at least tell it's not a D. Just cuz F is in the "colorless" range doesn't mean it truly is colorless. I still prefer cut over color. The sparkles are what lay people tend to think makes a diamond pretty. The color ranges sorta blend together for most people and as long as it looks pretty clear, the sparkles caused by a better cut will be more impressive. Take along an ideal-scope tho. Stones all sparkle a lot (even badly cut ones) under those jewelry store lights. An idealscope helps you weed out the really bad ones. Once you have the objective idealscope helping you, you can really tell which stone truly sparkles more than others. Just my 2 cents.
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| Posted: 12/27/2004 7:43:06 PM | |
| P: 12/27/2004 8:33:01 PM | |
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RockDoc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,509 Last Post: 6/17/2007 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Remember color grading is performed with the table side down. This is not the way it is worn or seen by a consumer. Diamonds can face up differently than they are graded. So it is possible that the H color diamond faces up closer to the F color stone, particularly if it very finely proportioned. Why people spend $$$ on a face down appearance without considering its face up appearance to my opinion can really be a waste of money. Additionally, D-F color diamonds that face up well sometimes look "icy". A little body color (commonly known as warmth color) is more attractive to some than others. Being able to recognize this takes a lot of practice with identical conditions ( type of light etc.) . Get more information about these two stones if you feel "in doubt". Possibly consider having an appraiser go to the store with you so he can independently advise you. Hope this helps. Rockdoc
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| Posted: 12/27/2004 8:33:01 PM | |
| P: 12/28/2004 4:54:28 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Date: 12/24/2004 3:35:59 PM Author: rosy Is there a big difference in the color of an F vs. a G, since you're going from colorless to near colorless? There is never a "jump" between grades... diamonds have no idea they are supposed to be graded, so they insist to have just any ever so slight tint. Grades are intervals really, not a precise standard. And these intervals get wider and wider down the scale (meaning, there is more 'distance' between J and K than between D and G.. say). It is almost incredible to me that anyone could tell F from D consistently unless grading conditions are provided - the grades are impossibly close. At least I would not say "big difference" while talking of diamond color grades. It's always "small difference" before you get to see real color (way below near colorless, as far as I can see). Anyway, is it feasible to pass by a jewelry store and look at a couple of diamonds of different color grades ? There is really not easy to describe what they look like given that such slight color differences almost never matter anywhere else. The difference between those letters printed on a cert seems so much more than what they are meant to describe IMO. 
Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 12/28/2004 4:54:28 AM | |
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