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 recutting european cut??

P:  11/29/2004 3:51:13 PM  
hopingforaring
hopingforaring

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have another question for all of you.  my boyfriend has informed me that his aunt has a 2ct. old european cut that she is willing to let go of for a decent price.  the 2ct. is approximate and we haven't been told the other specs yet.  she is planning on taking it to a jeweler soon to find out everything else.  we have read somewhere that you can have the diamond recut so it is more like a RB.  my questions are these: how much cutting would take place?  how much tcw. would we lose? and also, how much should we expect this to cost?  i realize without the other specs it is difficult to know if it is even worth it.  but lets assume that it is decent quality.  thanks so much for your input.  we really are clueless when it comes to this stuff! 

~audrey
Posted:  11/29/2004 3:51:13 PM

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P: 11/29/2004 4:05:23 PM
valeria101
valeria101

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Without the stone in hand... any guess from 10% to 30% weight loss is just as good.

However... let's say this stone turns out to have great optics (via Ideal Scope or any other measure). Would you still want to have it recut?

Also, it would likely be more effective (=less weight and size loss) to just have the proportions corrected to optimize brilliance, without modifying the facet pattern down to standard round brilliant cut... If this solution works, would it be appealing to you?

Just some 0.2 worth. There is no knowing what the potential of this stone is remotely

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/29/2004 4:05:23 PM
P: 11/29/2004 4:33:56 PM
solange
solange

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Euopean cut stones can be beautiful and are now very much appreciated. Two of the top Manhattan jewelers, Fred Leighton and Edith Weber, specialize in European cut stones. Their jewelry brings fabulous prices.
I have a ring with three European cut stones and they have a lot of sparkle. They look different than my modern cut stones but are really firey. You might want to send the stone to David Atlas, an appraiser on this site, who is very knowledgeable about European cut stones before you do anything you may regret.
It might be that the stone is beautiful on its own. And the old settings are now being imitated.

Or post a picture of the stone on this site and ou probably wil get some good advice and input.

  Opinions on this OMC? This is the site I was referring to. There are pictures of the ring here.

Posted:  11/29/2004 4:33:56 PM
P: 11/29/2004 5:38:42 PM
katbadness
katbadness

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I agree with the prev. poster that an OEC can in fact be beautiful.

Here is the old thread that was mentioned.


Here is a pic of the OEC in that thread:

Posted:  11/29/2004 5:38:42 PM
P: 11/29/2004 5:50:08 PM
katbadness
katbadness

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Compare the 2 types of cuts:

A modern RB - an ideal cut H&A round brilliant from a recent post.
Note the sharp pinfire faceting:





And here's a 2ct OEC owned by another PS member.
Note the chunky faceting:


Posted:  11/29/2004 5:50:08 PM
P: 11/29/2004 10:05:11 PM
Hest88
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Oh God, please, please, please re-think the cutting idea. What you have is a unique, vintage piece. What you'll create will be lovely, but exactly like all those other gal's rings. If you keep it the way it is you can flaunt an heirloom antique ring; if you re-cut it it will be, in my mind, like those people who tore down Victorians to build modern tract houses.

Posted:  11/29/2004 10:05:11 PM
P: 11/30/2004 4:09:51 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
Garry H (Cut Nut)

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once you take an old diamond out of its setting it is no longer "insitu"

Recut it!

If there was genuine (money up front) demand for old cuts then everyone would be cutting badly.
(Sorry Hest)

Also if there is very little weight to be lost, then it is already well cut - so only recut it if it IS going to loose lots - but if it is going to loose diameter (rare) then seek advice.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

HCA and Ideal-scope developer

http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  11/30/2004 4:09:51 AM

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