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Oval Shape - Need Pricing/Sizing/ Color help |
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| P: 11/28/2004 4:22:57 PM | |
Xmasproposal Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 11/29/2004 Member Since: 11/28/2004 |
All, I am proposing at xmas. Here is the Diamond that made the short list. Does everything look ok? I want to get this then upgrade the setting later in life with some additional diamonds on the side. I am an average Joe so for this amount of money should I go bigger and less on the color scale? We are in Dallas TX...... I think there may be an F that is bigger ( and not just in the depth where you can't see it) for the same price. Inclusions are all eye clean as they are on the sides and not on/under the table. There was also one oval with a table of 52% - is that way to small or does it depend? $10,000 includes the platinum Solitary setting Oval Brilliant 9.52 x 6.72 x 3.95 1.60 carat Depth 58.8% Table 59% Med to slightly thick, Faceted Cutlet - none Polish Very Good Symmetry Very Good Clarity - SI2 Color - D Flor - None Thanks for all the help - I am feeling more confident about purchasing since I found this site in particular this message board. RC |
| Posted: 11/28/2004 4:22:57 PM | |
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| P: 11/28/2004 5:33:29 PM | |
zoobiedo Cut Rock Total Posts: 102 Last Post: 12/11/2005 Member Since: 7/19/2004 |
The stone looks good. It's a little on the deep side but might be okay. Will you be seeing it at an independent appraiser before making your final decision? Why don't you try looking at www.gemappraisers.com and plugging in your numbers. This is a good gauge of what will look nice in a stone. I used it when I bought my marquise and my stone is magnificent IMHO You can also look at the cost comparison by plugging in the size and such on the pricing part of this site - I don't know if it's a good value or not. Seems kind of expensive to me off the top of my head. You can go down to H in color and it will still look very, very white - I have a J colored stone that is very white and I never thought I would go that low until I found this forum.
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| Posted: 11/28/2004 5:33:29 PM | |
| P: 11/28/2004 7:08:48 PM | |
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Xmasproposal Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 11/29/2004 Member Since: 11/28/2004 |
zoobiedo, Thanks - it came back a 1b on the cut. Pricing is close when I take out 600 for the plat. setting. I go to see the jeweler tomorrow. I will probably ask her for little better price and bring in some internet pricing to back it up. I am also going to take your advice about droping color. It seems that everyone on a budget goes for F to H and gets the bigger diamond. I will ask to view a few more stones. Thanks, Randy
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| Posted: 11/28/2004 7:08:48 PM | |
| P: 11/28/2004 8:52:52 PM | |
pearcrazy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,438 Last Post: 11/27/2008 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
I don't think the stone is a little deep. If anything it's just a tad shallow. I think the price may be just a little high for an SI2 stone. You have to be really careful with SI2's in fancy cuts they are less likely to be eye clean. DCD has a similar sized D color SI2 in the $8500 range. http://www.dirtcheapdiamonds.com/diamond_detail.cfm?did=2695999 I think that I would consider dropping to an E or F in color and raise the clarity to an SI1 or VS2 to make sure that your diamond is eye clean. The platinum solitaire setting will run you anywhere from $400 to $800 depending on which style you choose.
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| Posted: 11/28/2004 8:52:52 PM | |
| P: 11/29/2004 12:54:50 AM | |
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Xmasproposal Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 11/29/2004 Member Since: 11/28/2004 |
pearcrazy, Should I worry about (flor - medium) in the link to the diamond you gave me? She is a doctor works under those lights all the time. As far as the bow tie - it is minimal. The GIA report is from August 2003 - should I worry that it is so old? Thanks everyone for the help. RC
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| Posted: 11/29/2004 12:54:50 AM | |
| P: 11/29/2004 11:25:33 AM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
The cert is not old... relatively speaking and if it were, old would be better than a new. There is nothing glaringly undesirable about this stone, as far as I can tell. But this being SI2 there is no telling what those inclusions look like and if they are or not a significant detraction. Do you have a copy of the cert ? Is there any way to know what this diamond looks like befoe buying it? Those GIA stats do not tell how brilliant this one is and how it may compare with what ovals can be at their best... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 11/29/2004 11:25:33 AM | |
| P: 11/29/2004 11:46:08 AM | |
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Xmasproposal Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 11/29/2004 Member Since: 11/28/2004 |
Ana, Thanks for answering.....I really like the stone I have seen it and have the GIA Cert. I think it is beautiful and so does my girlfriend's sister. But what do I know as this is my first time buying. This site and the people are terrific. The Inclusions - I thought I saw the feather using the loop, but I am not sure. The jeweler could see the inclusions and tried to point out all the inclusions using the Loop. Nothing is on/under the Table they are all in the side - lucky there I guess. There is crystal - very small. A feather in one facet. One tiny cloud near the feather and one large cloud. The Bow Tie is not bad, which I thought it would be bad because there is not alot of Depth to bury it. The Big Question: If you had $10,000 to spend on an oval diamond (Her sister tells me this is what she likes) young Texas woman. What would the basic stats be? Would you drop in Color and up in Clarity, focus on the brilliance? Go bigger because she is in Texas? As you can see from a "bird's eye view" this Diamond is pretty big length/width - shallower on depth. I look forward to the reading  ,RC
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| Posted: 11/29/2004 11:46:08 AM | |
| P: 11/29/2004 12:39:59 PM | |
DiamondLil Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,405 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 6/8/2003 |
Fancy shapes can be tricky. Since you have seen this diamond and like it, use it to compare to others side by side. This will help you the most. If you cannot see a difference in color with the F and it looks as brilliant, I would go for the bigger size. An F color is still very white even though fancy shapes can show color more readily than round. The stone is definitely not deep. A cut grade of 1B is good. Generally, I do not worry too much about medium fluorescence even in upper color stones. I have not seen a stone with medium that had a problem. I have an E color pear with medium blue, and I like the way it looks "plugged in" under fluorescent lights, but that's just my taste. I have a friend that does not like that look at all and won't by a diamond with even slight fluorescence -- go figure. DiamondLil DiamondLil ________________ "Diamonds are nothing more than chunks of coal that stuck to their jobs." |
| Posted: 11/29/2004 12:39:59 PM | |
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