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 depth question- shallow cut???

P:  11/17/2004 3:06:14 PM  
susiQ
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I just purchased a diamond that is GIA cert and already set. I do not know the crown and pavillion #'s, which I now understand are very important in determining cut quality. I was wondering if there is a way to determine whether my diamond is a shallower cut or not based on its measurements. Also, is it assumed that if you are buying an ideal cut that it will not be shallow/deep?

here's the info

.84 ct VS1 H Ideal round, 6.09 x 6.14 x 3.69 mm, 57% table 60.3% depth, EX/EX, no fluor. thin to med. girdle culet-none


I've tried comparing it to other .84 ct with about the same diameter on the web and thier depth measurements are closer to 3.75-3.85 mm. What difference will +/- 1 mm do to a diamond's appearance? can I run any tests on an already set diamond (for light return, cut quality, etc) or would I have to have it removed from its setting???

I'd appreciate anyone's input!!!!!


Posted:  11/17/2004 3:06:14 PM

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P: 11/17/2004 3:10:25 PM
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also, wondering if the price sounds right... $3967

Posted:  11/17/2004 3:10:25 PM
P: 11/17/2004 4:33:31 PM
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Who said the stone is ideal?  -Not to scare you, but that term is used far too loosely... Assuming tho that it is an ideal H&A diamond, that price seems about right (what kind of setting came with it?).

Don't worry about it being too shallow - as you can see from the AGA cut chart (LINK), you've nothing to worry about.

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Posted:  11/17/2004 4:33:31 PM
P: 11/17/2004 5:14:21 PM
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I probably worded that wrong. Before I found this forum, my BF and I built this ring on bluenile, so it is already set in a white gold cathedral setting (so too late to ask for sarin etc...) We have 30 days to return it, so I just want to get some opinions. It was listed as an ideal cut by bluenile....and we can see the arrows with our naked eye, however it seems to look a little dark when I look at it closely... is that normal? I was thinking maybe it was on the shallow side and that is what caused the darkness.

Posted:  11/17/2004 5:14:21 PM
P: 11/17/2004 5:38:26 PM
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Date: 11/17/2004 5:14:21 PM
Author: susiQ

 I was thinking maybe it was on the shallow side and that is what caused the darkness.

(CONFUSED POST REMOVED: why did I think this was 57% deep ?)

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/17/2004 5:38:26 PM
P: 11/17/2004 7:44:36 PM
fortheloveofdiamonds
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Hi Ana,

I am not sure what you mean by saying that her stone is shallow.  It was my impression that (and I say this without knowing crown and pav angles) that a 60.3% total depth and a 57% table were quite fine and fell within the AGS0 zone (at least for total depth and table).  So I guess I am a little confused as to why you would think that the stone is shallow?

Posted:  11/17/2004 7:44:36 PM
P: 11/17/2004 8:23:24 PM
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Date: 11/17/2004 7:44:36 PM
Author: fortheloveofdiamonds
Hi Ana,

I am not sure what you mean by saying that her stone is shallow

Why... beacuse I thought (no idea why, the truth reads black on white) that depth was 57 and table 60!

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/17/2004 8:23:24 PM
P: 11/17/2004 8:52:30 PM
susiQ
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I am a little confused too. Is it possible to have a table % Depth % combination within the AGS0 zone that results in a shallow(er) stone?

Posted:  11/17/2004 8:52:30 PM
P: 11/18/2004 10:47:17 AM
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Date: 11/17/2004 8:23:24 PM
Author: valeria101

Why... beacuse I thought (no idea why, the truth reads black on white) that depth was 57 and table 60!

Hiya Ana,

hihi! I do that sometimes myself! LOL! Thanks for clarifying!

Posted:  11/18/2004 10:47:17 AM

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