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P:  11/17/2004 6:54:37 AM  
Yupi
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Which are the biggest (Big 2, 3, 4?) labs in the world ?

Please advise with reference to number of certs issued per annum, number of employees, number of offices/branches, and growth rate.

I have not included profitability/ turnover above because I am being told some labs are not for profit organisations.  Also, I have not referred to reputation of labs because it is a subjective matter.   

 


Posted:  11/17/2004 6:54:37 AM

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P: 11/17/2004 8:18:29 AM
Brian Knox
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Date: 11/17/2004 6:54:37 AM
Author:Yupi
...
 I am being told some labs are not for profit organisations...

Hi Yupi,

I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.

However, I think all of the major labs are not only 'for profit enterprises', I think they are 'Cash Cows'

Brian Knox

Posted:  11/17/2004 8:18:29 AM
P: 11/17/2004 8:27:52 AM
denverappraiser
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Yupi,

The most reports are issued by IGI.
The highest total value examined is by GIA
The most workers is IGI. I wouldn't have a clue if they are employees or if they hafve some other relationship. No one has ever asked this before.
I recall Zales has an in-house program in many of their stores that they call a lab.  This would probably qualify as the most locations unless Wal-Mart has started something like this. I haven't been in either variety of store lately.

Are you writing a paper? 

Neil Beaty, GG ISA
Independent Appraisals in Denver

There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.

Posted:  11/17/2004 8:27:52 AM
P: 11/17/2004 8:58:12 AM
Yupi
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Brian,

Thank you for your input.   Huum......interesting comment.

Neil,

Thank you.  You have mentioned 2 names, so I guess they are the Big Two? 

No, I am not writing a paper but am hoping to become a GG and interested in the industry as a whole.  Like you said, no one has really asked about this and on this basis, it appears that not many ppl are interested in this aspect of the industry? 

Posted:  11/17/2004 8:58:12 AM
P: 11/17/2004 9:18:05 AM
denverappraiser
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Yupi,

It gets a little difficult to define things like 'lab' and 'bigger' for this kind of discussion. Symantics become terribly important.  EGL, for example, is not the same company as EGL-USA although many people count their products as being from the same lab.  GG is a GIA product.  Many customers are under the mistaken impression that an examination by someone with a GG is somehow endorsed by GIA when they grade a stone.  

Some other big players are PGS and AGS.  There are dozens.  Non-profit status involves their relationship with IRS, not their relationship with their clients.  As Brian points out, some non-profit organizations produce quite a bit of revenue.

Neil Beaty, GG ISA
Independent Appraisals in Denver

There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.

Posted:  11/17/2004 9:18:05 AM
P: 11/17/2004 9:19:13 AM
Pricescope
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EGL would be probably the third. You'd have to defferentiate, however, EGL USA and EGL oversees

{Added} Neil, you were 1 min ahead with more detailed answer



Pricescope

Posted:  11/17/2004 9:19:13 AM
P: 11/17/2004 10:07:33 AM
strmrdr
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Dont quote me on this but I read someplace the top 6 by volume would be:
igi
gia
hrd
egl-non usa
egl-usa
ags


I dont recall where I read it or know how accurate it is.

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  11/17/2004 10:07:33 AM

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