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 Graff & Harry Winston - Paying for name

P:  11/1/2004 4:50:38 PM  
memphis
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Are you only paying for the name??  What is the difference between these stores and online stores or a reputable store on 47th street?  Are the stones cut differently?  Why are they 30% more than all the other stores?

 


Posted:  11/1/2004 4:50:38 PM

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P: 11/1/2004 4:54:19 PM
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Yes, you are ONLY paying for the name.

______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.

Posted:  11/1/2004 4:54:19 PM
P: 11/1/2004 5:11:53 PM
valeria101
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No... not just the name.

The same product can be found elsewhere, but it takes time and work. For anyone there is some extra cost to provide only fine goods - since diamonds do not come off the ground specially shaped to produce ideal cut brilliants, there is some cost involved in selecting just the fine stuff - as a top brand does. After all, why would anyone else accept the leftovers ?  And no, this selection cost is not insignificant at all.

I like to explain (to my students) this premium as some price for hassle - if you do want the best, fast, for sure and with no trouble, Cartier is there to provide.

And then, if some intricate craftsmanship is in order, it may take a long, long search to find nearly as fine as Schlumberger and Seaman Schepps and Buccellati for a bargain.

Hope this answers the Q a bit.

Surely one of the sellers posting here could give a more colorful account :)


Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/1/2004 5:11:53 PM
P: 11/1/2004 5:29:54 PM
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Well, I was just looking at the GIA cert on Estella's ring from Bob (yes, I have no life) from Harry Winston and all I have to say is that is FAR from ideal. I don't think the name automatically gives you an ideal cut stone. 

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Posted:  11/1/2004 5:29:54 PM
P: 11/1/2004 6:00:19 PM
valeria101
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Date: 11/1/2004 5:29:54 PM
Author: moremoremore
  I don't think the name automatically gives you an ideal cut stone.


True. These guys (HW, Tiffany, maybe the rest ?) do not abide by diamond metrics - the great names are just the most famous and diligent "dinosaurs" as Garry calls the lot. No diamonds by the numbers at Cartier either, as far as I know.

Can you imagine Harry Winston endorsing AGS by using their concept of cut quality   End of the world m'am


Fine melee is all engineered (cut by numbers) these days, so it may well be that the consistently ideal cut diamonds at Tiffany's are the five pointers! Probably not entirely true, but funny, no ?


Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/1/2004 6:00:19 PM

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