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 Nice but Cheap Concave Cuts?

P:  10/22/2004 5:00:22 PM  
velouriaL
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I love Richard Horner's work, but he is a little bit out of my price range. Anyone know of less expensive concave cuts? What about created or synthetic stones? I am concerned that a cheap/created/synthetic version might look a bit too novel, a bit tacky.

Any insight?

 


Posted:  10/22/2004 5:00:22 PM

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P: 10/22/2004 5:14:20 PM
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Here's a link to some possible resources: http://www.faceters.com/links.shtml
I took a look at one of the listings -- Chris and Ann's concave faceting at www.concavefaceting.com and here's a sample of one of their stones. Don't know anything about them or any of the others listed but perhaps contacting some of the faceters guilds will give you some more leads.
 

 

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Posted:  10/22/2004 5:14:20 PM
P: 10/22/2004 5:22:10 PM
strmrdr
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Gary @ www.diamondexpert.com has a source for them.
Iv seen one and its very nice.

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Posted:  10/22/2004 5:22:10 PM
P: 10/22/2004 8:21:07 PM
coldfusion
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What is your price range?

I know richard has quite a few stones sub-$1000. There typically not sapphire or ruby, but amethyst, peridot, citrine, all beautiful in their own right.

I recently bought a 13+ carat concave amethyst from Wink for less than $1000. In fact, he has quite a few beautiful stones sub $600. That's not a bad price considering they are one-of-a-kind pieces.

Posted:  10/22/2004 8:21:07 PM
P: 5/10/2005 11:35:09 PM
snjohri
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Very shortly, I am going to post some photos of relatively cheaper concave cut stones. These all have been cut by me and some of them have also impressed Richard Homer. Wait for this posting as I need a little time in taking the pictures and posting them

Posted:  5/10/2005 11:35:09 PM
P: 5/10/2005 11:54:24 PM
Richard M.
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Date: 10/22/2004 50:22 PM
Author:velouriaL
Anyone know of less expensive concave cuts?





How about natural stones in cuts similar to the citrine in this image? At prsent they're being produced in amethyst, ametrine, citrine, swiss and London blue topaz and peridot, mostly as calibrated trillions, cushions, rounds and rectangles.

Richard M.

 

 


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Posted:  5/10/2005 11:54:24 PM
P: 5/10/2005 11:55:52 PM
Richard M.
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Whoops, forgot to upload the image.

Richard M.
 

 


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Posted:  5/10/2005 11:55:52 PM
P: 5/10/2005 11:59:06 PM
Richard M.
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Sorry, the images were uploaded but didn't appear. ???????


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Posted:  5/10/2005 11:59:06 PM
P: 5/11/2005 12:12:57 AM
movie zombie
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no, no pictures! 

peace, movie zombie

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Posted:  5/11/2005 12:12:57 AM
P: 5/11/2005 12:13:32 AM
movie zombie
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oops, that's 'yes, there are no pictures'.

peace, movie zombie

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Posted:  5/11/2005 12:13:32 AM
P: 5/11/2005 12:14:32 AM
movie zombie
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there were some on eBay today but i'm not advocating buying stones, even inexpensive, unless you're willing to eat the price if you don't like it.  some do seem inexpensive enough to try out though.

peace, movie zombie

"I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park

Posted:  5/11/2005 12:14:32 AM
P: 5/11/2005 12:15:13 AM
strmrdr
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Date: 5/10/2005 11:596 PM
Author: Richard M.
Sorry, the images were uploaded but didn't appear. ???????

remove all spaces and ~!@#$%^&*-_=+ charactors from the file name before uploading.

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Posted:  5/11/2005 12:15:13 AM
P: 5/11/2005 12:40:12 AM
velouriaL
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Even though I, personally, am I not really in the market right now, I would love to see some new cuts!
Also, acstone.com has some nice concave cuts.

Posted:  5/11/2005 12:40:12 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:30:38 AM
TKC
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Hi, I am new here, but I have followed the forum for a quite long. I like this forum so much. it gives much information about gemstones out there. I just registered. I have a large concave cut amethyst, about 36 carats. Here are the pictures. I like collecting gemstones.
 

 

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:30:38 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:33:15 AM
TKC
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Here is another picture. I don't know how to upload the pictures in one submission. The picture is the same stone just in different lighting condition.
 

 

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:33:15 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:34:27 AM
Richard M.
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One more time into the fray...

R.
 

 


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Posted:  5/11/2005 1:34:27 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:36:55 AM
Richard M.
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And again...

R.
 

 


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Posted:  5/11/2005 1:36:55 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:38:13 AM
movie zombie
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i'm drooling all over myself! 


the amethyst is lovely!!!!  but my heart belongs to that orange three corner!  what stone and how big is it, richard?

more pictures from both of you, please!

peace, movie zombie

"I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:38:13 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:39:34 AM
movie zombie
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i'd love to set that purple amethyst with that orange stone!  wow, wouldn't that make some pendant!?

peace, movie zombie

"I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:39:34 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:45:57 AM
TKC
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I also like orange gemstones. I own this orange sapphire. It has regular oval cut, but I just like the color. How do you guys think?
 

 

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:45:57 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:48:43 AM
TKC
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Here is another picture of my amethyst.
 

 

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:48:43 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:49:12 AM
movie zombie
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looks good to me!  but i too like orange colors.... 

peace, movie zombie

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Posted:  5/11/2005 1:49:12 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:54:55 AM
Richard M.
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Date: 5/11/2005 1:38:13 AM
Author: movie zombie
my heart belongs to that orange three corner! what stone and how big is it, richard?




Forgot to resize the blue topaz image and I hadn't noticed the chips on the pavilion. It's a reject.

The stone you asked about is Brazilian citrine and it comes in 10 mm. and 12 mm. I don't have the carat weight at the moment.

Here's a 10 x 8 mm. oval in the same material.

R.
 

 


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Posted:  5/11/2005 1:54:55 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:58:09 AM
Richard M.
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And an oval amethyst...

R.
 

 


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Posted:  5/11/2005 1:58:09 AM
P: 5/11/2005 1:59:56 AM
movie zombie
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richard, you cut these yourself, right?!  and the blue is a reject?!  there are stones for sale out there that don't look nearly so good......

that purple amethyst is growing on me....i've got to quit looking!  will the orange sapphire be recut or remain as is?

peace, movie zombie



"I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park

Posted:  5/11/2005 1:59:56 AM
P: 5/11/2005 2:04:56 AM
TKC
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It will remain as is. It has been graded by the AGTA lab. I like it so much. I have never seen such a sapphire without Be heated.

Posted:  5/11/2005 2:04:56 AM
P: 5/11/2005 2:05:43 AM
Richard M.
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Date: 5/11/2005 1:59:56 AM
Author: movie zombie
richard, you cut these yourself, right?! and the blue is a reject?! there are stones for sale out there that don't look nearly so good......




peace, movie zombie






No, the stones I posted are commercially cut and they're nice, also inexpensive, just the way Velourial wanted. All are natural mined material.

Someone else posted the sapphire image. If you have more questions I'll answer them tomorrow. G'nite all...

R.

R.


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Posted:  5/11/2005 2:05:43 AM
P: 5/11/2005 2:10:01 AM
TKC
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Good nite too to you all. I will see you guys tomorrow again here. I like this site so much.

Posted:  5/11/2005 2:10:01 AM
P: 5/11/2005 2:20:59 AM
movie zombie
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ditto....i'll dream of orange, purple, blue, and gold.

wow, untreated and that orange.  that's a keeper.

peace and good night, movie zombie

"I don't feel enjoyment watching films that evoke passivity. If you need that kind of comfort, I don't understand why you wouldn't go to a spa." Chan-wook Park

Posted:  5/11/2005 2:20:59 AM
P: 5/11/2005 5:23:37 AM
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Type "concave faceting" into Google and you will likely end up with a pagefull of links ! 

Among them Concavefacets.com turns up nice and, more importantly not all that huge concave cut pieces including fancy shapes and synthetics. The one problem I find with concave cuts is that smaller stones (ring size) do not look nearly as great as the huge, fancy shaped and intricately carved pieces. Richard turns those tiny sidestones around just nicely, of course.

Acstones has a page for concave cuts and mentions their sources. A "pair" of fancy triangles there (a peridot and a morganite) look particularly prone to become pins or pendants...


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Posted:  5/11/2005 5:23:37 AM
P: 5/11/2005 11:51:22 AM
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TKC,

The orange sapphire is beautiful and so is that Regal Amythist.  Just curious, is the sapphire heated?

Posted:  5/11/2005 11:51:22 AM

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