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What is the ideal Asscher cut? |
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| P: 10/8/2004 10:25:45 PM | |
orange_horse Rough Rock Total Posts: 43 Last Post: 2/19/2005 Member Since: 9/7/2004 |
I am in the market for a 3+ carat asscher cut for an engagement ring. I had never even heard of this style diamond before my girlfriend referred to them as her "all time favorite". What is your opinion regarding these diamonds? Are colorless a waste of money? Will anyone ever notice VS2, or is VVS1 and VVS2 not money well spent when it could go to larger carat weight? Here's what I'm thinking. What would you recommend assuming price was no issue and why? I gave ranges, but would prefer specificity in your response. Carat - 3.00 - 4.00 Color - Considering D - H, leaning towards F - G Clarity - VVS1 - VS2, leaning towards VVS2 - VS1 Polish and Sym - Ex, Ex - Vg, Vg, leaning towards Ex, Ex Depth - 68% - 71% Table - ? This site and its member are a godsend for the laymen. Thanks a million! |
| Posted: 10/8/2004 10:25:45 PM | |
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| P: 10/8/2004 11:25:13 PM | |
coreyzat Rough Rock Total Posts: 77 Last Post: 12/2/2005 Member Since: 6/30/2004 |
I would recommend using the emerald format on the DIY cut advisor. I used it on the an asscher and it was perfect. If it comes down to a choice between clarity and color, I'd go for the higher clarity. It's easier to see an inclusion on an asscher than a different stone of comparable clarity. In any case, make sure it's 100% eye clean, because that's not a guarantee even with a VS1. Oh, and 3+ carats!!! wow! Corey Z PS - With Asschers you want to see the stone in person. The numbers don't always give you a great idea about how exactly the stone will look.
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 11:25:13 PM | |
| P: 10/9/2004 2:38:49 AM | |
Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,876 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002 |
-------------- Carat - 3.00 - 4.00 Color - Considering D - H, leaning towards F - G Clarity - VVS1 - VS2, leaning towards VVS2 - VS1 Polish and Sym - Ex, Ex - Vg, Vg, leaning towards Ex, Ex Depth - 68% - 71% Table - ? -------------- Classic Asscher proportions: Depth: 65-70% neighborhood Table: 55-65% neighborhood Crown height: 12-17% neighborhood Outline: Large cut corners, with shape tending towards "stop sign" outline Face up "look": Cut corners produce larger "windmill type" reflection pattern ........................Depth produces concentric square "house of mirrors" reflection pattern Side view: Slightly bulging pavilion Symmetry & polish above "very good / very good" is rare I like your F-G choice, and would consider VS1-VS2 a good and practical choice of clarity. It's good to remember though that a lot of the "generic Asschers" (square emerald cuts) are quite beautiful in their own right. Although their proportions might deviate from the "classic Asscher" profile, they can still be works of art that many choose above classic Assher features. The attached photo shows a "generic Asscher" (square emerald cut) on the left, and a stone with more "classic Asscher" features on the right.  Rich, Independent GG Appraiser |
| Posted: 10/9/2004 2:38:49 AM | |
| P: 10/9/2004 10:12:55 AM | |
reena Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,531 Last Post: 8/22/2005 Member Since: 7/13/2004 |
so do the "classic asschers" always have that stop sign shape? (i love that!
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| Posted: 10/9/2004 10:12:55 AM | |
| P: 10/10/2004 9:59:16 PM | |
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orange_horse Rough Rock Total Posts: 43 Last Post: 2/19/2005 Member Since: 9/7/2004 |
Where do I get one like the one on the right in your asscher image? Any ideas?
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| Posted: 10/10/2004 9:59:16 PM | |
| P: 10/10/2004 10:46:17 PM | |
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Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,876 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002 |
Reena- Yes, the "classic" Asscher proportions are wide cut corners with a more "octagonalish" outline. Orange_Horse- The Asscher pictured originated from WhiteFlash. Rich, Independent GG Appraiser |
| Posted: 10/10/2004 10:46:17 PM | |
| P: 10/11/2004 3:05:13 PM | |
oldminer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,964 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/4/2000 |
Rich:
Your side by side photo of the two styles is excellent. The true Asscher has a deep look to it, while the "imitation", which happens in this case to be very nice, too, looks more sparkly, but somewhat flatter (less deep). The True Asscher has less sparkle, but better visible definition of its shape, a higher amount of "intensity".
In the end, one must choose one look over the other, as you cannot get it all in one diamond. Different looks are what makes people with different tastes and budgets happy. Is one better than the other? That's really up to people who want to buy one or the other. Prices reflect supply and demand in a pretty accurate way.
David S. Atlas |
| Posted: 10/11/2004 3:05:13 PM | |
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