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| P: 10/8/2004 10:33:21 AM | |
Sparkler Rough Rock Total Posts: 19 Last Post: 10/8/2004 Member Since: 10/4/2004 |
Please someone help me!!! What are the desired specs on a 2 ct princess? I am new to the forum and need info. What is the max table? the best LTW ratio to stay close to? what is the max depth? crown %? girdle thickness in a %? and pavillion depth? I am puchasing today or tomorrow and I don't want to go in blind. I want to know what to walk away from.
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 10:33:21 AM | |
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| P: 10/8/2004 11:15:24 AM | |
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
doesn't work like that my friend. There is no magic set of number for the princess...you don't have to like it but it's true.
______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 10/8/2004 11:15:24 AM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 11:23:01 AM | |
reena Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,531 Last Post: 8/22/2005 Member Since: 7/13/2004 |
----------------i personally think that if you're currently "blind" on the topic, you realllllly should hold off on making this very large purchase until you've had time to gather a little more info.  no sense spending all of that money on something that could be a dud. maybe read up on some past princess posts on this site and/or post the specs of the stones you're considering so that the princess experts (not me!) can help you out.
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 11:23:01 AM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 11:41:33 AM | |
researcher Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,440 Last Post: 5/26/2008 Member Since: 4/27/2004 |
Here are the numbers I prefer: Table: 66-72% (keep this number less than or equal to the depth Depth: 67-74% (if you go above 75% you're buying a stone that will look small) Crown: 10-16% (make sure they give you this info!) L/W: 1.00-1.05 (anything over 1.05 will start to look rectangular) Polish/Symmetry: VG or EX ("good" is fine, but look for VG/EX) Girdle: TN-STK (with little or no variation) These are a bit more strict than most people would tell you, but they're the numbers I use. Other people will say you can go lower in table and depth, but I have yet to see a stone I've loved with numbers like that. Hope this helps!
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 11:41:33 AM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 11:53:20 AM | |
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b52holly Rough Rock Total Posts: 34 Last Post: 11/8/2004 Member Since: 9/23/2004 |
Not necessarily true moremoremore...I get what youre saying BUT he could find an absolutely beautiful stone, buy it, try to get it set and....it chips because he didn't know what a very thin girdle is...I dont know what the percentages mean, but when I went shopping most of the reports just said thin-thick, thin-med, etc...Just stay away from very thin or extremely thin and extremely thick (too thin and it might chip, too thick and it just eats up the weight of the diamond) When I was looking I had to use numbers cause I bought offline- so here is what I went by: Depth Percentage: 64.0% - 75.0% Table Percentage: 59% - 72% Polish: Good to excellent Symmetry: Good to excellent Girdle: Thin to thick L/W ratio ~1.01 (if you want square) no culet little to no fluorescence According to goodoldgold and everything else i've heard- "Our very first step to finding the best princess cuts is to NOT waste any time with stones that have tables that are larger or greater than their total depths" Since you get to see the diamonds though I would just use these numbers as a little guide (esp for girdle) and to dazzle the jeweler so he doesnt rip you off too much. Basically, if it looks good and has a thin-slighty thick girdle then get it. Dont dismiss a perfectly beautiful stone just because it has medium blue fluor...if it doesnt look cloudy then who cares, it will just glow in the blacklight(some ppl like that). Thats my two cents- goodluck 
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 11:53:20 AM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 12:06:31 PM | |
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moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
oops- wasn't ref'ing to the girdle holly...I gave sparkler my schpeal (sp?) yeaterday...believe me, I've been down the princess road...!!! I told sparkler that I would accept any girdle except X thin...very thin might make me a little nervous but I wouldn't rule a stone out. I'm not a stickler on the girdle. I won't reject a great stone b/c of a thick girdle. Also, there is no right or wrong depth or table. I told sparkler that it is best to get table a bit less than depth...but there is no one magic number or combo no one set of numbers that guarantees a great stone. And while I do follow the rule myself- here's an example...this stone has a 72.2 depth and 69 table. It's still a really nice stone, but it has a crown of only 9.1! Could be better. http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-645728.htm# ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 10/8/2004 12:06:31 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 12:09:08 PM | |
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moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
little to no fluorescence? I disagree. Depends on the color sparkler is looking at. medium flourescence is a great thing in 'lower colors' Also, a small culet won't be seen to the eye. I actually like a slightly rectangular stone...but you get more light leakage as the stone gets more rectangular. ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 10/8/2004 12:09:08 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 12:14:26 PM | |
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Sparkler Rough Rock Total Posts: 19 Last Post: 10/8/2004 Member Since: 10/4/2004 |
Thank you everyone! I feel so much better now that I have little guide. I'll post pics as soon it the stone I choose is in a setting!
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 12:14:26 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 12:18:06 PM | |
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reena Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,531 Last Post: 8/22/2005 Member Since: 7/13/2004 |
you're not going to post specs?
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 12:18:06 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 1:50:12 PM | |
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b52holly Rough Rock Total Posts: 34 Last Post: 11/8/2004 Member Since: 9/23/2004 |
hey more... Yeah I was just saying those were the specs i went for since I had to buy sight unseen, on line...I've heard fluor can make a great stone but i've also heard you have to watch out for the cloudy ones...which is why I agree that if it looks good then get it. Same thing for the culet...he gets to see it so its not a big deal but when I was looking online thats what i went for. My opinion/experience...if it looks good don't really worry about the specs (fancy shapes dont really have ideal numbers like rounds) Just use the numbers we gave as a GENERAL guideline. But mostly I'd say you get a lot more respect and less BS from the jewelers (the B&Ms)if you know the 4Cs and a little more.
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 1:50:12 PM | |
| P: 10/8/2004 3:00:13 PM | |
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Sparkler Rough Rock Total Posts: 19 Last Post: 10/8/2004 Member Since: 10/4/2004 |
I agree, I have been asked if I am a jeweler (kinda funny)!!
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| Posted: 10/8/2004 3:00:13 PM | |
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