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Diamond Color - How Bad is H |
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| P: 10/7/2004 3:51:36 AM | |
sharpie Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 10/7/2004 Member Since: 9/30/2004 |
Is there a noticeable difference between an F Color Diamond and an H Color Diamond? There seems to be a huge price differnece between the two. Thanks. 
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 3:51:36 AM | |
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There are 10 replies to this message. There are 10 replies on this page. |
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| P: 10/7/2004 3:56:52 AM | |
Kamuelamom Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,808 Last Post: 10/20/2006 Member Since: 4/18/2003 |
To answer your question, H is not a "bad" color at all. But there is a difference. Some are more color sensitive than others, and to some it matters a lot; to others, not so much. Your wallet will definitely notice a difference.  That said, if you are comparing two very well cut stones, the H is not a bad color at all. It will most likely face up white, and if it is eye clean, better yet. With an excellent cut stone, you can even go to an I or J before you will really be noticing a huge difference. Now if you are comparing F to J, well different story. |
| Posted: 10/7/2004 3:56:52 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 9:06:14 AM | |
denverappraiser Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,618 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/21/2004 |
I wouldn’t even say that F is better than J. Personally, I kind of like J’s but it’s a substantially different look. It’s like asking ‘which is better, red or blue?’ They are simply different. Look at some stones in person and get a feel for what you like. H is the best selling color in the US, in part because of the compromise on the price point but plenty of people decide that they want to go for the whiter color and are willing to pay the premium to get it. Also be aware that the difference between two color grades is pretty subtle and it can be obscured by things like fluorescence, cut, bad lighting and a whole litany of other variables. It’s difficult to be sure that you are truly shopping comparable items. Some stones are accompanied by documents that can be deceptive on this issue and different labs can vary by several grades on the same stone. Buy the stone, not the paper. Neil Beaty, GG ISA Independent Appraisals in Denver There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile. |
| Posted: 10/7/2004 9:06:14 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 9:46:30 AM | |
alexah Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,032 Last Post: 2/16/2008 Member Since: 2/14/2004 |
---------------- AMEN  Another great post denverappraiser! 
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 9:46:30 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 9:52:40 AM | |
lmurden Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,101 Last Post: 6/4/2006 Member Since: 5/3/2004 |
Go to "Eye Candy" under Show Me Your Ring and you will see that H is not bad but a great buy! H is the reason why I bought an I color, because I thought if an H looks this great then an I must look just as good.
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 9:52:40 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 10:35:00 AM | |
Lions, Tigers & Bears Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,107 Last Post: 9/12/2005 Member Since: 10/18/2003 |
I have an H and I am very pleased (see avatar). I think F+ colors are a bit "icier" (and certainly very beautiful) but in a well cut RB, an H will get you a white diamond at a great value. Color and clarity tolerances are highly personal, subjective matters, with no "wrong" decisions. For me, I would rather have the 3 ct size in an H versus a smaller stone in an F or G. Good luck. 
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 10:35:00 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 11:14:27 AM | |
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
While I can immediately see color in fancy shapes, I was shown a round H and a round G. They looked nearly identical to me!
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 11:14:27 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 11:39:44 AM | |
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AdaBeta27 Cut Rock Total Posts: 246 Last Post: 9/8/2007 Member Since: 9/7/2004 |
G, H , I, and J are "near colorless" which I think of as "off white." So, look for the tint. Is it yellow, pink, gray, brown, or not noticible, and if that H diamond still looks good to you then H is good. I've seen color charts somewhere online that say F might show slight tint in larger sizes.
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 11:39:44 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 11:45:50 AM | |
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002 |
Is there a noticeable difference between an F Color Diamond and an H Color Diamond? There seems to be a huge price differnece between the two. The visual difference between an F and an H is not noticeable to most people in the side-by-side position. Yes, people who are very color sensitive may discern the difference, but it's a VERY subtle difference. But your diamond won't be mounted next to an F diamond. When the H diamond is mounted and face-up and viewed alone, it doesn't look any different from an F....even to many color sensitive people. The reason there is such a huge price break isn't because there's a noticeable difference. It's because colorless diamonds (D,E,F) are considered more rare, so you're paying for perceived rarity, not for a much "better" looking diamond. I own an ideally cut H stone, and most people think it's an F. It faces up ABSOLUTELY white! _____________________ |
| Posted: 10/7/2004 11:45:50 AM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 12:40:25 PM | |
iceprincess Cut Rock Total Posts: 310 Last Post: 7/7/2007 Member Since: 4/29/2003 |
As a H stone owner myself, I can tell you my stone faces up beautifully white. As the others have said, individual color tolerances vary and the cut of the stone makes all the difference. Like Al, everyone thinks my stone is a higher color grade. After viewing many beautiful rings in the SMTR folder here at PS and viewing stones in person, H really allowed me to jump in carat size which was pretty important to me. I hope you find a beautiful stone. Good luck!
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| Posted: 10/7/2004 12:40:25 PM | |
| P: 10/7/2004 12:44:55 PM | |
JohnQuixote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,212 Last Post: 5/24/2008 Member Since: 9/9/2004 |
The above replies contain excellent perspectives and advice. I would add: The price difference you observed between F and H is large because D E F are in the "colorless" bracket and G H I are in the "near-colorless" bracket. Prices jump when you cross to colorless, though F & H are only 2 grades apart so visibly they are quite close (Aljdewey alluded to this). Great cut improves the look of any diamond. A well-cut near-colorless can look as good or better than colorless diamonds which are not as well cut. Cut is King! Cut is King! Cut is King! Consider which lab did the grading. Some labs tend to be softer than others. Do some searches here on PS – Leonid & Garry Holloway posted a great study here. Neil's chorus of “Buy the stone, not the paper” is always the best bet. Have you had a chance to see the diamond and compare it with "colorless" stones (if that is what you fancy?) John |
| Posted: 10/7/2004 12:44:55 PM | |
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