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GIA Report- what to do with no crown and pavillion numbers?

P: 9/23/2004 4:57:14 PM
synth19 Rough Rock Total Posts: 76 Last Post: 10/31/2005 Member Since: 2/15/2004	I just got a GIA report for a ring I'm thinking of getting. I'm trying to use the cut advisor tool, but it won't allow me to use it because I have no crown or pavillion numbers. Here is the GIA report specs: July 1, 2002 Laser Inscription Registry: GIA 11902358 Shape and Cutting Style: Round Brilliant Measurements: 6.04-6.12 x 3.86 mm wt: .90 carat Proportions--- Depth: 63.5% Table: 60% Girdle: Slighly Think, FACETED Culet: NONE Finish--- Polish: Excellent Symmetry: VERY Good Clarity Grade: VS2 Color Grade: F Florescence: NONE Comments: Crown Angles are greater than 35 degrees Additional Clouds are not shown. So is this a good stone or not? thanks!!!
Posted: 9/23/2004 4:57:14 PM

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P: 9/23/2004 8:30:33 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Can't really tell without the angles... I CAN tell you that this stone has the diameter of a well-cut 0.80 ct diamond. So you're probably paying for a lot of weight that you can't see. There's a chance this is actually a Fiery Ideal Cut-type stone, but I wouldn't count on it. It's also somewhat out-of-round (there is a bit more variation in the diameter than would be ideal). quaeritur
Posted: 9/23/2004 8:30:33 PM

P: 9/23/2004 10:14:31 PM
synth19 Rough Rock Total Posts: 76 Last Post: 10/31/2005 Member Since: 2/15/2004	^ Thanks, how can I get angles?
Posted: 9/23/2004 10:14:31 PM

P: 9/23/2004 10:39:54 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,577 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	Ask for a Sarin scan angles for crown and pavilion and /or an ideal-scope photo. It could be ok - it has a very intelligent girdle. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 9/23/2004 10:39:54 PM

P: 9/23/2004 10:44:08 PM
Lions, Tigers & Bears Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,107 Last Post: 9/12/2005 Member Since: 10/18/2003	LOL, Garry. Synth19: Get a Sarin. _____________________________________________ Don't breed or buy when homeless pets continue to die.
Posted: 9/23/2004 10:44:08 PM

P: 9/24/2004 2:11:00 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,577 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	no - on second thoughts, i would pass on this stone Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 9/24/2004 2:11:00 AM

P: 9/24/2004 10:25:17 AM
synth19 Rough Rock Total Posts: 76 Last Post: 10/31/2005 Member Since: 2/15/2004	The Price btw for this ring is 4k. I can't seem to find anything else with these specs for a cheaper price. He insists this is a GREAT stone even though he doenst have the angles for crown and pavilion. I know two other people and have been very satisfied with him. Should I just purchase it and then have it seperately appraised? If it doesnt stand up, I can return it.
Posted: 9/24/2004 10:25:17 AM

P: 9/24/2004 10:25:56 AM
synth19 Rough Rock Total Posts: 76 Last Post: 10/31/2005 Member Since: 2/15/2004	Is sarin a machine? I take it all jewelers can not provide this kind of info?
Posted: 9/24/2004 10:25:56 AM

P: 9/24/2004 1:13:38 PM
synth19 Rough Rock Total Posts: 76 Last Post: 10/31/2005 Member Since: 2/15/2004	Okay guys, thanks for the advice. I will NOT be purchasing the stone from this particular jeweler. Since they don't have the angles I simply asked the guy if he could get the angles from an appraiser. Why should I take his word for it that this stone is "ideal?" I even told the guy I would pay to have the pavillion and crown measurements taken before I purcahsed the ring. He basically said he won't do that, and he never in his life dealt with someone like myself "with all these questions." imo, these were some very simple requests, he felt the GIA report was good enough for him...and should be for me.
Posted: 9/24/2004 1:13:38 PM

P: 9/24/2004 2:58:37 PM
Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,142 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004	---------------- On 9/24/2004 1:13:38 PM synth19 wrote: I even told the guy I would pay to have the pavillion and crown measurements taken before I purcahsed the ring. He basically said he won't do that, and he never in his life dealt with someone like myself 'with all these questions.' imo, these were some very simple requests, he felt the GIA report was good enough for him...and should be for me.---------------- YIKES, what an experience. So sorry! Well, look at the bright side... you have found PS, and will be able to find a GREAT stone at a great price right here! Happy hunting! (And keep us posted!) Lynn And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it!
Posted: 9/24/2004 2:58:37 PM

P: 9/24/2004 3:09:38 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	Please! Even when I ask GOG to find me stones online that they don't own, J gladly gets me sarin info. Good move walking away. The vendor obviously felt threatened. ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 9/24/2004 3:09:38 PM

P: 9/24/2004 3:32:25 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Yuck, I really HATE hearing about jewelers doing this. It's just so stupid. Unless they're trying to pull a fast one, they should be thrilled to have knowledgeable consumers. Ugh. My jeweler told me I was "overeducated" and "impossible to please." I seem to have pleased myself fine with the diamonds I found on my own! So good for you for walking away! I don't know if you really want to go the B&M route, or if you are willing to look at online vendors too, but I'm convinced you can find someone who will be happy to accommodate your requests . quaeritur
Posted: 9/24/2004 3:32:25 PM

P: 9/24/2004 4:07:32 PM
travl4me1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2006 Member Since: 5/18/2004	Garry... (or anyone) Hypothetically, Lets assume you have a 2 one carat diamonds. One GIA and one AGS. They are identical. Diameter measurements are exactly identical, girdle, symmetry, polish, culet, etc. EVERYTHING exactly the same ! Could one logically assume that that the crown and pavillion info provided on the AGS cert would apply to the unknown angles on the GIA ? Could they be very far off from each other ? Just curious more than anything, TRAV TnT.J.K.
Posted: 9/24/2004 4:07:32 PM

P: 9/24/2004 5:13:54 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,577 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	about this much difference Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 9/24/2004 5:13:54 PM

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