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P:  9/10/2004 7:37:01 PM  
kcola
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Can you get hearts and arrows with a fluorescence can't seem to come across one.

 


Posted:  9/10/2004 7:37:01 PM

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P: 9/10/2004 7:47:57 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
Garry H (Cut Nut)

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A lot of dealers find you internet buyers to be over informed with all the trade codswallop, so they avoid diamonds that have sale killing comments.

I applaud you for looking for rather than avoiding fluoro diamonds. I like them too.

On the other hand, can you tell the difference between very nicely cut non H&A's and H&A's diamonds?
I can not.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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Posted:  9/10/2004 7:47:57 PM
P: 9/10/2004 8:02:56 PM
Lions, Tigers & Bears
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I am going to get SLAMMED for this but I have held an H&A next to a very very well cut diamond not technically an H&A and I couldn't see much difference....

Look for very well cut stones with good HCA scores and scope images; see out those among the group with flour. and you'll be able to satify your need for a sparkly rock with flour.

PS I also tend to like stones with some flourescence.

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Posted:  9/10/2004 8:02:56 PM
P: 9/11/2004 1:38:03 AM
quaeritur
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----------------
On 9/10/2004 8:02:56 PM Jennifer5973 wrote:

PS I also tend to like stones with some flourescence.----------------



Me three! They are out there, but I agree they're much harder to find. What are your other criteria? Maybe some of us can help you with your search...

quaeritur

Posted:  9/11/2004 1:38:03 AM
P: 9/11/2004 11:38:21 AM
Brian Knox
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Hi,

I feel the I/J/K range of color in well cut stones with blue flourescence represent a real value in diamonds for consumers.

I seek these diamonds out and buy them for stock whenever possible.

When I show a well cut J/K with med. bl. Fl. to a customer, they cannot beleive that it is priced 40% less than a G color that looks identical in most lighting conditions.

Brian Knox

Posted:  9/11/2004 11:38:21 AM
P: 9/11/2004 1:36:11 PM
JohnQuixote
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----------------
On 9/10/2004 7:37:01 PM kcola wrote:



Can you get hearts and arrows with a fluorescence can't seem to come across one.----------------



Hi kcola. Yes, there are H&A diamonds with fluorescence. Your observation about their rarity is correct for reasons Sir Garry mentioned.

I tend to stand arm in arm with quaeritur and Garry on this topic. A dash of fluor does not distract and, in fact, appeals to me. Brian astutely noted that near-colorless stones may improve in appearance with fluor in the mix (this sounds like a cake recipe, no?). Additionally, I simply like the way they come to life in dance club blacklight... Ice Ice Baby!

I have a D-VS1 H&A with medium fluor and love it in daylight, shoplight, candlelight or boogielight


John

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Posted:  9/11/2004 1:36:11 PM
P: 9/11/2004 1:42:16 PM
JohnQuixote
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PS: Point to Sir Garry for effective tactical use of "codswallop" in a sentence.

John

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Posted:  9/11/2004 1:42:16 PM
P: 9/11/2004 2:02:21 PM
alexah
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Wink's got a H&A .67 G VS1 w strong blue fluor for $2352 if you're looking for something akin to that? LINK (it's three up from the bottom)

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Posted:  9/11/2004 2:02:21 PM
P: 9/11/2004 2:29:39 PM
quaeritur
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I have a sneaking suspicion that one's sold... I think I've seen it here in Boulder

And no, I didn't buy it!

quaeritur

Posted:  9/11/2004 2:29:39 PM
P: 9/11/2004 2:38:00 PM
Rhino
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On 9/11/2004 1:36:11 PM JohnQuixote wrote:

I have a D-VS1 H&A with medium flour and love it in daylight, shoplight, candlelight or boogielight

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LOL... boogielight!   I guess that's better than boogerlight.

Rhino
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Posted:  9/11/2004 2:38:00 PM
P: 9/11/2004 2:53:40 PM
Rhino
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I'd agree with the consenus here as well.  Faint or medium blue fluorescence presents no problem at all.  Even in some that are strong although I approach those with a little more caution.

Rhino
Good Old Gold

Posted:  9/11/2004 2:53:40 PM
P: 9/11/2004 3:17:15 PM
moremoremore
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Hey Jenny from the block- see...no one slammed you! Different cut characteristics appeal to different people...Non H&As can be beautiful..like yours!

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Posted:  9/11/2004 3:17:15 PM
P: 9/11/2004 5:23:20 PM
Lions, Tigers & Bears
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PS At work, my nickname is "JFo"...my last name begins with an "F" and ends in an "o"...

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Posted:  9/11/2004 5:23:20 PM
P: 9/11/2004 5:25:43 PM
JohnQuixote
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----------------LOL... boogielight! I guess that's better than boogerlight.

----------------


Jonathan -

So do you want to develop a boogiescope? It could analyze "fluorescent ambience," "effectiveness of wardrobe" and "bad dancing!"

I'd score an "Ideal-Ideal-Really bad"

John

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Posted:  9/11/2004 5:25:43 PM
P: 9/11/2004 5:44:57 PM
Rhino
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On 9/11/2004 5:25:43 PM JohnQuixote wrote:

----------------
LOL... boogielight!  I guess that's better than boogerlight.

----------------



Jonathan -

So do you want to develop a boogiescope?  It could analyze 'fluorescent ambience,' 'effectiveness of wardrobe' and 'bad dancing!' 

I'd score an 'Ideal-Ideal-Really bad'

----------------

   Too funny!  We can use a disco ball as the light source.

 

Don't remember seeing you post here before John.  It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Please send my regards to the rest of the staff.

Rhino
Good Old Gold

Posted:  9/11/2004 5:44:57 PM
P: 9/11/2004 7:06:19 PM
Superidealist
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JohnQuixote wrote:
It could analyze 'fluorescent ambience,' 'effectiveness of wardrobe' and 'bad dancing!'
I would take issue with any such device since there are no generally agreed upon metrics for each quantity mentioned.

D Riley

Posted:  9/11/2004 7:06:19 PM
P: 9/11/2004 7:28:43 PM
JohnQuixote
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----------------
On 9/11/2004 7:06:19 PM Superidealist wrote:

I would take issue with any such device since there are no generally agreed upon metrics for each quantity mentioned.

----------------



DR - What about taking axis of rotation subtracted from mirror-density to acquire each disco ball 'standard unit' then multiplying resultant figures by the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow...?

In theory it could work.

Jonathan - Thanks for the welcome and consider the well-wishes passed on. My best to you, Sir Gold Knight

John

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Posted:  9/11/2004 7:28:43 PM

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