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P: 9/7/2004 4:12:49 PM
bOlivia Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 9/10/2004 Member Since: 9/7/2004	I am looking for a 1 carat, VS1/2,i-h color with a budget of 5000. I have found 2 diamonds thus far that I'm interested in but they are GIA certified (so I am unsure of the true cut of them). So I am seeking the knowledge/guidance of others to help me out with this scenario. My questioning pertains to taking a chance with not knowing the cuts, would it be foolish to spend this much money w/out that information. I'd appreciate any help or suggestions! Thanks! Diamond #1 $5000 VS1 H Depth 62.6 Table 60 Slightly thk-thk gird Ex polish and sym "Very Good" Cut Diamond #2 $4650 VS 2 H Depth 62.9 Table 61 thk-v.thk gird Ex polish, v. good sym No info on cut
Posted: 9/7/2004 4:12:49 PM

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P: 9/7/2004 4:45:18 PM
Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,139 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004	I would not buy any stone without the crown and pavilion angles. You just can't tell the quality of the cut without those numbers. Can the vendor run a sarin report for you? Another option is to have the stone sent to an independent appraiser who can examine the stone for you, and run a sarin. Request that the sale be contingent on the results/opinions of the appraiser, though. Lynn And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it!
Posted: 9/7/2004 4:45:18 PM

P: 9/7/2004 7:37:50 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,218 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	---------------- On 9/7/2004 4:12:49 PM bOlivia wrote: I am looking for a 1 carat, VS1/2,i-h color with a budget of 5000. I have found 2 diamonds thus far that I'm interested in but they are GIA certified (so I am unsure of the true cut of them). So I am seeking the knowledge/guidance of others to help me out with this scenario. My questioning pertains to taking a chance with not knowing the cuts, would it be foolish to spend this much money w/out that information. I'd appreciate any help or suggestions! Thanks! Diamond #1 $5000 VS1 H Depth 62.6 Table 60 Slightly thk-thk gird Ex polish and sym 'Very Good' Cut Diamond #2 $4650 VS 2 H Depth 62.9 Table 61 thk-v.thk gird Ex polish, v. good sym No info on cut---------------- bolivia, neither of these 2 stone will grade AGS 0 cut. tables too large,stones too deep, these proportions look like my measurment. too much(FAT) weight in the mid-section (the girdle). if these two stones weight exactly 1 ct, i bet the diameter is less than 6.5 mm. which an ideal cut should be. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 9/7/2004 7:37:50 PM

P: 9/8/2004 1:47:55 AM
Todd07 Cut Rock Total Posts: 455 Last Post: 3/17/2005 Member Since: 8/17/2004	Have you toyed with the search by cut quality tool? http://www.pricescope.com/sift.asp Todd(aka Ricardo, aka Cowboy)
Posted: 9/8/2004 1:47:55 AM

P: 9/8/2004 7:34:39 AM
bOlivia Rough Rock Total Posts: 7 Last Post: 9/10/2004 Member Since: 9/7/2004	Yes-I played with it last night and scrapped the "choices" discovered,after getting a little more informed. Thanks for the input-I'm still looking but now I've got some better filters for the search!
Posted: 9/8/2004 7:34:39 AM

P: 9/8/2004 8:25:39 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 9/8/2004 7:34:39 AM bOlivia wrote: ... some better filters for the search ---------------- Did you try THIS ? I would really type in H/I color, Vs2/Si1 clarity, 0.95-1.05cts, Excellent-Very Good cut Some labs do label cut quality taking optics (=brilliance and light return into consideration (EGL, AGS... maybe others but I do not know them) but many times you may get a cut grading thrown by the seller with not much backing or relation to brilliance (like the first stone you posted initially had). There is still no strict standard for what can and what cannot be called "ideal cut" about a round brilliant. Whatever merit any such label has, it is good to know what it stands for exactly, IMO. Here's what popped in among other stones (H-SI H&A ) ... and the main inclusion seems to be somewhere near the culet, luckily. There are others, of course. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 9/8/2004 8:25:39 AM

P: 9/8/2004 9:26:13 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Oh, WOW, Ana, that stone looks killer!!! I can't imagine why it didn't make it into their branded line, with that IS image and those #s. Yummy! quaeritur
Posted: 9/8/2004 9:26:13 PM

P: 9/9/2004 1:19:59 AM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,218 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	---------------- On 9/8/2004 9:26:13 PM quaeritur wrote: Oh, WOW, Ana, that stone looks killer!!! I can't imagine why it didn't make it into their branded line, with that IS image and those #s. Yummy!---------------- Q is that pretty close to an FIC ? the reason it did'nt make the ACA because is not graded ID,ID or maybe is not a h&a stone ? it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 9/9/2004 1:19:59 AM

P: 9/9/2004 1:30:04 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	---------------- On 9/9/2004 1:08:13 AM beavis wrote: Yummy? Instead of showing our immaturity with such adolescent terms, why not just tell the cheap SOB to open the wallet and dig a little deeper than $5000?---------------- I think I should laugh... honestly, who's the immature one here?! Guess the resemblance runs deeper than the name, beavis. He heh heh. quaeritur
Posted: 9/9/2004 1:30:04 AM

P: 9/9/2004 1:33:56 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	You might be right, vtigger, about the X/X vs. ID/ID grade for the ACA. I don't think that's all that close to an FIC... the crown angle would have to be over 35.5 degrees. Still, a nice looking TIC with EightStar tendencies? quaeritur
Posted: 9/9/2004 1:33:56 AM

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