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My Red Spinel!!

P: 9/6/2004 4:43:07 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	MINEMINEMINEmine -- pant pant -- after months of searching, we finally found the stone for my engagement/wedding ring -- now all I've got to do is narrow down my favorite 50 settings to 1 ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/6/2004 4:43:07 PM

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P: 9/6/2004 5:19:19 PM
Bertrand Ideal Rock Total Posts: 622 Last Post: 8/17/2009 Member Since: 7/13/2004	Very Nice! Details ? Size? I was just reading about Spinel on the new AGTA consumer web site. According to the site - in the past people were unable to tell the difference between Ruby and Spinel. While Rubies have gotten the attention – spinels are much more rare and a better value. Congratulations on choosing such a beautiful and rare colored stone for your engagement /wedding ring. --------------------------- "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
Posted: 9/6/2004 5:19:19 PM

P: 9/6/2004 6:34:15 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	awesome! yummy :} ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 9/6/2004 6:34:15 PM

P: 9/6/2004 7:49:41 PM
spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004	Beautiful color. The stone seems very clear. How long was your search and price? spinel.
Posted: 9/6/2004 7:49:41 PM

P: 9/6/2004 8:42:05 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	Hi Spinel, I started looking at stones in late May. Saw some beauties some of which were too large, some too small, and quite a few did not have the zoning and saturation I was hoping to find. My stone does have a visible--what my jeweler calls "characteristic" but I call inclusion--on the underside and I almost rejected it for one that was eyeclean. Then, I realized that I liked the inclusion -- it looks like a fleck of gold and is not typical of inclusions found in spinel. Weight is 3.24 carats; price $7290. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/6/2004 8:42:05 PM

P: 9/6/2004 8:49:55 PM
Lions, Tigers & Bears Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,107 Last Post: 9/12/2005 Member Since: 10/18/2003	Wow--I can't wait to see the finished ring... what a fabulous idea--and a juicy stone! Cherries Jubilee, anyone?! COngrats! Please post ring soon! _____________________________________________ Don't breed or buy when homeless pets continue to die.
Posted: 9/6/2004 8:49:55 PM

P: 9/7/2004 3:43:35 PM
spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004	Thank you matata. The price you paid is encourageing (for me). That is a truly beautiful stone, very hard to find. spinel.
Posted: 9/7/2004 3:43:35 PM

P: 9/8/2004 12:50:22 PM
innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,923 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003	I love that spinel. Where did you buy it? What type of setting will it be in?
Posted: 9/8/2004 12:50:22 PM

P: 9/8/2004 12:52:26 PM
innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,923 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003	Spinel, Is your avitar a spinel that you own?
Posted: 9/8/2004 12:52:26 PM

P: 9/8/2004 9:34:31 PM
spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004	Yes Innerkitten, it is my own stone I have it cut from rough and took the photo myself. Still in my collection box. spinel.
Posted: 9/8/2004 9:34:31 PM

P: 9/9/2004 7:48:03 AM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,048 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Not bad, Matata!!! Where DID you get it? (And if you post your 50 choices for settings maybe I will find one I can use for MY spinel...which remains unset. I promise I will choose from among the 49 settings you reject so as not to copy you ! ;-).) Best of luck!!! Deb A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 9/9/2004 7:48:03 AM

P: 9/9/2004 8:23:01 AM
luvmysparklies Cut Rock Total Posts: 266 Last Post: 5/23/2008 Member Since: 8/5/2003	I love it! Beautiful color! Oh, I can't wait to see how you set it. May I ask what the measurements are? Congratulations! Luv
Posted: 9/9/2004 8:23:01 AM

P: 9/9/2004 5:47:39 PM
innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,923 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003	Spinel, It has a bit of gold in it which I think is very pretty.
Posted: 9/9/2004 5:47:39 PM

P: 9/10/2004 9:39:34 AM
spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004	Indeed, it's color is special for a spinel: reddish orange, 1.87ct. I like the stone for it's brilliancy. Somehow included. spinel.
Posted: 9/10/2004 9:39:34 AM

P: 9/14/2004 7:51:20 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	Folks have asked where I bought the spinel: From a local jeweler and dimensions: don't know but I'll post them when I get the stone back from the appraiser in a couple of weeks. AGBF, I'd love to share some of the settings I've saved pics of but I keep having the most awful time getting pics to post here. Some pics post w/no problem; for others (from the same file, I keep getting messages about incorrect URL or some other such stuff. It's driving me crazy. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/14/2004 7:51:20 PM

P: 9/22/2004 7:26:34 AM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,048 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	---------------- On 9/14/2004 7:51:20 PM Matata wrote: AGBF, I'd love to share some of the settings I've saved pics of but I keep having the most awful time getting pics to post here. Some pics post w/no problem; for others (from the same file, I keep getting messages about incorrect URL or some other such stuff. It's driving me crazy. ---------------- I wish I could see them, Matata, but I will settle for a good shot of the setting in which you place your own spinel! No excuses will be accepted for failure to post THAT photo!!! Deb A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 9/22/2004 7:26:34 AM

P: 9/22/2004 8:07:36 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,584 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	A reddish yellow or gold is a bit tricky. Colors all come in shades of the rainbow. They can be lighter or darker in tone, and they can be more or less saturated. But the base hue or color must relate to a position on the rainbow (except for dichroic and trichroic colors -2 and 3 diff colors at once. They only come in polarizing minerals - and spinel does not - it is monochroic). So the color can be red to reddish orange, or orange to yellowish, but not reddish yellow. Padparasha (spulling?) is reddish (pinkish) orange - a rare color in nature. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 9/22/2004 8:07:36 AM

P: 9/22/2004 9:25:27 AM
Cave Keeper Cut Rock Total Posts: 264 Last Post: 9/23/2005 Member Since: 6/30/2004	Surprisingly, reddish-orange is one of the most common color that can be found in natural ammolites. Some ammolites may display all seven colors of the rainbow. Quite a few display 3 colors such as red/green/blue. The colors of many ammolites may change when the angle of lighting or viewing is changed. Some ammolites may change color drastically from red to green. ---------------- On 9/22/2004 8:07:36 AM Garry H (Cut Nut) wrote: : Colors all come in shades of the rainbow. : But the base hue or color must relate to a position on the rainbow (except for dichroic and trichroic colors -2 and 3 diff colors at once. They only come in polarizing minerals - and spinel does not - it is monochroic). So the color can be red to reddish orange, or orange to yellowish, but not reddish yellow. Padparasha (spulling?) is reddish (pinkish) orange - a rare color in nature.---------------- Thunder Storm Maker (Grand Master), creating havoc in the Heavens when active. Otherwise just a lazy Cave Keeper, sleeping on a huge pile of tiny glittery rocks, small dazzling stones and big sparkling pebbles.
Posted: 9/22/2004 9:25:27 AM

P: 9/27/2004 5:53:05 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	Ok, I think I've solved some of the photo-post problems....If I'm lucky, I'll post 3 settings that I'm considering for the spinel. I'm using these as concepts only...I like certain aspects of each. This one caught my eye because I love the rose gold with the red stone. I'd like to be able to use a few diamonds in the setting. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/27/2004 5:53:05 PM

P: 9/27/2004 5:55:12 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	East-west setting. I'm not too crazy about the ribbing on the band though. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/27/2004 5:55:12 PM

P: 9/27/2004 5:59:34 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	I can't get the one I like best to post. Will keep trying. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/27/2004 5:59:34 PM

P: 9/29/2004 6:57:51 PM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	I can't believe I finally got this to post. This is the Boone ring that gave me the idea for setting the spinel on an angle. I want a low basket setting, a less thick band and some diamonds thrown in for a bit more bling. Sorry to keep bumping this up. I meet with my jeweler next Thursday so if anyone wants to chime in and offer setting ideas or opinons, I'd love to hear 'em. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/29/2004 6:57:51 PM

P: 9/29/2004 7:36:09 PM
katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004	Matata, The last design you posted reminds me of Liz Tyler's design. Such as this... ---------- And here's a version with diamonds.. ---------- There's more designs like this on her website. You just have to keep on clicking "Next"..
Posted: 9/29/2004 7:36:09 PM

P: 9/29/2004 7:39:32 PM
katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004	And J. A. Bevacqua.
Posted: 9/29/2004 7:39:32 PM

P: 9/29/2004 8:46:01 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Not much here - you will definitely find lots of the sort browsing the AGTA awards of the past few years and the designers' websites: Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 9/29/2004 8:46:01 PM

P: 9/29/2004 9:35:03 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	My winner would be the black & white sketch by Cornelius Hollander... with the two accent diamonds and all Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 9/29/2004 9:35:03 PM

P: 9/30/2004 11:30:46 AM
Matata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,647 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 9/10/2003	Wow! Thanks katbadness & valeria. I've forwarded some of the pics to my jeweler to add to the idea file. I'm really liking the designs where the metal swoops around the stone. ~~~~~~~~~~ There is only one way to achieve happiness on this terrestrial ball, and that is to have a clear conscience or none at all. Ogden Nash
Posted: 9/30/2004 11:30:46 AM

P: 9/30/2004 11:34:38 AM
katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004	---------------- On 9/30/2004 11:30:46 AM Matata wrote: Wow! Thanks katbadness & valeria. I've forwarded some of the pics to my jeweler to add to the idea file. I'm really liking the designs where the metal swoops around the stone. ---------------- The Mark Schneider one is really cool (with the diamonds on the shank), but I'm very into flowy design... so my vote is for a ring that combines Mark Schneider + Liz Tyler... then you've got yourself a winner! P.S. There is a Swiss artisan whose design sensibility may appeal to you, Matata. He has a few of his sketches on his site.. I have to find it again, though... I'll post when I found it.
Posted: 9/30/2004 11:34:38 AM

P: 9/30/2004 11:56:37 AM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,048 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	I have no ideas to post, but wanted to let you know I am following this thread and enjoying the settings. I especially like the first one (in rose gold) Matata posted and the one with the blue stone by Liz Tyler. If there are to be diamonds I prefer side stones of the same shape to the graduated strand of them inthe Liz Tyler "Gold Assymetric" setting. A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 9/30/2004 11:56:37 AM

P: 9/30/2004 12:41:41 PM
katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004	---------------- On 9/30/2004 11:34:38 AM katbadness wrote: P.S. There is a Swiss artisan whose design sensibility may appeal to you, Matata. He has a few of his sketches on his site.. I have to find it again, though... I'll post when I found it. ---------------- Ok... I found it. The Swiss gentleman's name is Hubert Heldner. And his website is: http://www.free-form.ch/. These 2 designs may work with your stone: These 2 pics came from this page. And I think I should stop now.. lest I'm inundating you for more of the same design ideas.
Posted: 9/30/2004 12:41:41 PM

P: 10/5/2004 10:21:21 AM
Ivy Cut Rock Total Posts: 244 Last Post: 7/27/2005 Member Since: 5/18/2004	This one is my favorite. I think it would look beautiful in rose gold and your Spinel. And I'm sure some melees could be added (as acents) to the setting as well. Your stone is gorgeous...I can't wait to see it set. "Always in motion is the future." --YODA
Posted: 10/5/2004 10:21:21 AM

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