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 GIA cut grading

P:  9/6/2004 1:46:25 PM  
ib40.5
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Any word on when GIA is going to start using cut performance on their certificates? Any rumors on how the information will be presented? Thanks, Ian

 


Posted:  9/6/2004 1:46:25 PM

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P: 9/6/2004 2:52:34 PM
yowahking
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GIA is supposed to announce it in 10 days at the HK conference. I will be there and promised to tell PS about the what's and where's. The leak is that it will be on cert mid 2005. The big controversy is how fast can you send back GIA certs to update. The backlog for GIA is too long now, no one will want to wait 6 weeks just to update. It may bring the price down a bit on old GIA certs which would help consumers. It may mess things up for one year and then all will be OK. Some people just don't like change.

Scott Bohall
Owner, Treasures Custom Jewelers
President Arizona Jewelers Association

Posted:  9/6/2004 2:52:34 PM
P: 9/6/2004 3:27:26 PM
smaggard
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On 9/6/2004 2:52:34 PM yowahking wrote:

GIA is supposed to announce it in 10 days at the HK conference. I will be there and promised to tell PS about the what's and where's. The leak is that it will be on cert mid 2005. The big controversy is how fast can you send back GIA certs to update. The backlog for GIA is too long now, no one will want to wait 6 weeks just to update. It may bring the price down a bit on old GIA certs which would help consumers. It may mess things up for one year and then all will be OK. Some people just don't like change. ----------------



Are you saying that we may be able to get the new cert (albeit will have to wait a while) without sending in the stone again to GIA? So if GIA already certed a stone, do they have the Sarin's and such necessary to rate the cut?

thanks

Scott

Posted:  9/6/2004 3:27:26 PM
P: 9/6/2004 3:39:48 PM
yowahking
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I am quite sure that any new cert or update would require the stone again. The liability would be too great otherwise. 14 days days and we will know.

Scott Bohall
Owner, Treasures Custom Jewelers
President Arizona Jewelers Association

Posted:  9/6/2004 3:39:48 PM
P: 9/6/2004 3:52:13 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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They will have a period (maybe even from now) where the stones they are grading can have a new cut grade report without re-submitting the diamond.
It will only be rounds however, and very few stones should be sent back because there is no point getting a cut cert on a diamond with a lousy cut (most rounds that go to GIA have less than stella cut performance).

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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Posted:  9/6/2004 3:52:13 PM
P: 9/6/2004 4:57:32 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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This is what I have managed to piece together on a crown pavilion angle proportion front.
Any info from HK would be welcome
 

 

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

HCA and Ideal-scope developer

http://www.ideal-scope.com and
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Posted:  9/6/2004 4:57:32 PM
P: 9/6/2004 10:10:08 PM
ib40.5
ib40.5

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Hmmmm... seems very familiar, thanks to you Gary. I wonder if they will quantify brilliance/fire/ scintillation. Thanks, Ian

Posted:  9/6/2004 10:10:08 PM
P: 9/6/2004 11:20:06 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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No. Just grades 1 to 5 i believe.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  9/6/2004 11:20:06 PM
P: 9/6/2004 11:38:20 PM
strmrdr
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hmm if that is accurate some of the best loved stones around here are going to rate a 2 at 34.5 amd 40.5

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  9/6/2004 11:38:20 PM

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