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 Jubilee I am thinking about

P:  9/3/2004 11:16:15 AM  
alpine75
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Ok I need your expert opinions on this. I was looking into a 1ct. Princess. GOG suggested to me a Jubilee .72 ct. diamond. I am now very intrested in this.

Jubilee

I want to know what you guy’s think of the Jubilee’s and what you think of this diamond. Also how it compares to a 1ct. princess. Example:

Princess

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

Posted:  9/3/2004 11:16:15 AM

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P: 9/3/2004 11:36:14 AM
alexah
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Stating the obvious, they will face up similarly, size-wise. This particular jube has better light return than that particular princess. I'm assuming the pricing is comparable & the jube is eye-clean...

So - that leaves the shape... does she have her heart set on a princess cut? I think that's probably the most important Q in this case (tho you could certainly set it to look more like a princess)...

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Posted:  9/3/2004 11:36:14 AM
P: 9/3/2004 11:37:39 AM
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Jubilee~!~!

Posted:  9/3/2004 11:37:39 AM
P: 9/3/2004 11:42:25 AM
Chrono
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I don't know squat about Princess cuts but I do know something about Jubilees as I bought one recently. The Jube you posted is a very nice one. Because it isn't as deep as the others (usually around 70%), you are getting a very nice spread that makes this 0.72ct look like a 1ct Princess or 0.8ct Jubilee. H is a very colourless stone combined with a SI1 is a very sweet spot. Just make sure that the SI1 is eye clean to YOU. The other stats (H&A, Lightscope and BScope pictures) are so gorgeous too.

Researcher and MMM are the Princess experts here on PS so they will be able to chime in your the Princess stone you posted.

Posted:  9/3/2004 11:42:25 AM
P: 9/3/2004 11:44:34 AM
Chrono
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Alexah, actually, I think the Jube might be a lot cheaper than the PC.

The Princess is a G VS2 while the Jube is a H SI1. The PC is also over 1 ct and the Jube is under the 1ct mark.

Posted:  9/3/2004 11:44:34 AM
P: 9/3/2004 11:51:49 AM
alexah
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I *assumed* the price was comparable. I'm thinking either stone is in the budget since they're both listed so it's not too much of an issue but thank you for the info chrono.

Re: asking the princess experts on that princess, what more do you need to know? It's a tad deep & there are certainly ones w better light return but whether Jon has one right now is another Q. This SC is even deeper but its light return is in the VH range, tho it is somewhat rectangular-eque (not a bad thing unless one prefers a more square shape).

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Posted:  9/3/2004 11:51:49 AM
P: 9/3/2004 11:56:11 AM
Chrono
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Sorry Alexah, I guess I misunderstood your statement about pricing. I didn't realize you meant the budget. As I said before too, I know next to nothing about Princess cuts except that most are cut rather deep. That is the nature of the cut but some, however, are really too deep to bring out the beauty of the cut.

Posted:  9/3/2004 11:56:11 AM
P: 9/3/2004 12:01:56 PM
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don't look at me...I want a jubilee now too!
I would pick that jub over the princess...but I am a little surprised at the shape of the jubilee. That one looks a bit like a regent. Not that that's a bad thing. I would go jub.

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Posted:  9/3/2004 12:01:56 PM
P: 9/3/2004 12:05:24 PM
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I actually like this regent better than all of them...again, that jubilee is very octagonal (if that's the right word)....so why not go regent for better bscope? Dunno.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/regent_0_91ct_h_vs2.htm

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Posted:  9/3/2004 12:05:24 PM
P: 9/3/2004 1:21:12 PM
quaeritur
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I was going to say jube, but it looks like it just sold...

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Posted:  9/3/2004 1:21:12 PM
P: 9/3/2004 1:26:39 PM
alpine75
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What about this stone. Jubliee

Posted:  9/3/2004 1:26:39 PM
P: 9/3/2004 1:35:00 PM
quaeritur
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mmmmmmmmm.... YUMMY!!!!!!

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Posted:  9/3/2004 1:35:00 PM
P: 9/3/2004 1:39:36 PM
Chrono
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Very nice too. It is a little deeper hence at 0.88ct, it is the same size as the 0.72ct (5.4mm). But I love the I colour with fluoresence!

Posted:  9/3/2004 1:39:36 PM
P: 9/3/2004 1:49:44 PM
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Looks like BigDS2002 bought it Qu. I really like this new jubilee! Love the flourescence!

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Posted:  9/3/2004 1:49:44 PM
P: 9/3/2004 7:19:13 PM
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My opinion: Jubilee =

For that stone in particular, my concern would be the inclusions right in the middle of the table... make sure you get the okay that it's eye-clean (I know they'll treat you right!). Otherwise, I think I'd take a Jube over a princess anyday!


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Posted:  9/3/2004 7:19:13 PM
P: 9/3/2004 7:22:38 PM
goldengirl
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Okay, ignore the last one. My question on this new jube is, how come on the GCAL report, the photomicrograph shows the H&A with three half-hearts, and further down you see the optical analysis with perfect H&A symmetry? What makes the difference?


"...Why don't they just come right out and say it? 'Diamonds...that'll shut her up!' "

Posted:  9/3/2004 7:22:38 PM
P: 9/3/2004 11:09:32 PM
quaeritur
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I'm half guessing on this, because I'm not familiar with the setup to get the photomicrograph, but I think it's basically a photo of the stone pavilion-side up, magnified. To get that perfect view of the hearts, you really need to put a color filter cylinder around the stone to enhance the contrast. Same stone, same great symmetry, just harder to see without the setup.

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Posted:  9/3/2004 11:09:32 PM
P: 9/4/2004 1:10:30 PM
goldengirl
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So....knowing this, it is possible to purchase a stone that is H&A without having the H&A scope image available?

....cool.


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Posted:  9/4/2004 1:10:30 PM
P: 9/5/2004 1:51:37 AM
valeria101
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On 9/4/2004 1:10:30 PM goldengirl wrote:

So....knowing this, it is possible to purchase a stone that is H&A without having the H&A scope image available?

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I would say NO... The H&A effect is only obvious using the H&A viewer, so no surprise that the photo on the cert does not show harts. The arrows are more easier to captue on a photo. GCAL does not certify "Harts and Arrows" - so that photoicrograph is an ID, not a proof of harts and arrows symmetry. There will be one on GCAL certs for princesses, Ecs or any other diamond with no claim whatsoever for H&A symmetry.

Hopw this makes sense...




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Posted:  9/5/2004 1:51:37 AM
P: 9/5/2004 2:19:49 AM
valeria101
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I would not expect the GemAdviser models to correspond all the time perfectly with the pictures - in this case they do not really look like either the respective perfect harts image, nor like the GCAL photo. The one way to reconcile all the versions below is to get the stone and a H&A viewer...
Also, some inclusions are visible in the H&A viewer harts picture - you could match that with the inclusion plot of the stone.

Regardless of what the explanation for the pics is, this one is a square cut with arrows showing through the crown and top light return. This still sounds very good to me

 

 

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Posted:  9/5/2004 2:19:49 AM

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