Please advice which one should I purchase

P: 8/17/2004 7:30:30 PM

Silver TypeS

Rough Rock
Total Posts: 10
Last Post: 8/25/2004
Member Since: 8/17/2004

Three diamonds at very similar price
1. GIA 0.9 carat H VS2 Holloway Cut Adviser rating 2
or
2. GIA 0.93 carat E SI2(eye clean with feather) Holloway Cut Adviser rating 1.4
or
3. GIA 0.91 Carat H SI1 HCA 1; Depth 61.7; Table 57; GIA Girdle STK-TK,F; Polish Very Good; Symmetry Very Good; Fluorescence Faint;Dimention 6.15-6.21X3.81

Thanks

Posted: 8/17/2004 7:30:30 PM

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P: 8/17/2004 9:32:37 PM
jkoe Rough Rock Total Posts: 19 Last Post: 4/22/2006 Member Since: 7/28/2004	What are the prices for each stone? ');" height=15 alt="Insert smilie " src="http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/22.gif" width=15 border=0> I bet if you give a little more detail, you will get some response! Happy diamond shopping!
Posted: 8/17/2004 9:32:37 PM

P: 8/17/2004 9:45:06 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	This is pretty limited information. I'd get many more details to compare the two, including inclusion and idealscope pictures. That said, based on this info, and the prices being comparable, I'd look hard at the E Si2, and understand the details of the inclusions. (Risk, visibility from all angles, etc.) I'd also look at the dimensions of the two to see if one has a larger diameter. The only obvious benefit going for the H stone is clarity (based on this limited data), so I'd dig hard into the clarity differences since it is often something that can't be seen. Besides, I'm partial to e color stones.
Posted: 8/17/2004 9:45:06 PM

P: 8/18/2004 1:51:31 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	Thanks for all your quick responses, both stones are priced around $3600. The first one measurements are: 6.29-6.25x3.73 with 57% Table 59.5% Depth 33.5 Crown Angle and 39.9 Pavillion Angle. The second one measurements are: 6.34-6.36x3.75 with 59% Table I'm attaching the second one image in 40X, Sarin Report and Idealscope pic. Thanks for all your help!
Posted: 8/18/2004 1:51:31 PM

P: 8/18/2004 1:53:59 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	sorry, I have to do three times since the system won't allow me to attach 3 files at once.
Posted: 8/18/2004 1:53:59 PM

P: 8/18/2004 1:56:17 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	here is the idealscope image for the second one
Posted: 8/18/2004 1:56:17 PM

P: 8/19/2004 3:12:03 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	Lop, how do you think about the diamond with above data?
Posted: 8/19/2004 3:12:03 PM

P: 8/19/2004 7:26:32 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	Sorry for the delay -- I haven't been online much lately..... That inclusion looks pretty front and center. Have you talked to the vendor about it? The pics are magnified, so I'm sure it shows up more, but it would be a red flag to me since it is right in the table. The idealscope looks good, so I would just really try to understand the center inclusion -- what color is it and how visible is it to the naked eye, and think about how much it would bother you and your intended if you could see it once you know where it is. (You would most likely be the ones to see it -- no one else really examines stones up close.) Most of the PS vendors will give you their honest opinion about it, so let their experienced eyes help you understand it. Also ask about any others that may be visible or reach the surface. And, if you make sure that they have a good reputation and a decent return policy in case you go ahead and find it really isn't what you had hoped it would be, you should be ok.
Posted: 8/19/2004 7:26:32 PM

P: 8/19/2004 8:44:10 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	thanks Lop, the item is from whiteflash.com. And I talked with the cutter and he said it's eye clean and no color inclusion. Should I trust it or just get the first one with less HCA?
Posted: 8/19/2004 8:44:10 PM

P: 8/20/2004 12:07:58 AM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	Brian the Cutter has a good reputation for being up front and super knowledgable. If you can set it up, maybe up should bring both stones into a local appraiser to help you look at them live. If that isn't practical, I'd trust Brian's recommendation enough to buy it. They have a good return policy, and are very reputable, so if you do it right, you can protect yourself if you aren' happy with it. . You may love it in person, and that is what matters. You are at the point of having to figure out how to take the chance in a risk free way. Whiteflash is very reputable, so either bring both in to look at, or purchase this one, and make an appointment with a good, independent appraiser with plenty of time to react based on the results within the return time. Good luck!
Posted: 8/20/2004 12:07:58 AM

P: 8/20/2004 12:24:51 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 8/19/2004 8:44:10 PM Silver TypeS wrote: thanks Lop, And I talked with the cutter and he said it's eye clean and no color inclusion. Should I trust it or just get the first one with less HCA?---------------- Is THIS the H-VS2? I would not consider the difference between the two HCA scores very relevant. Both the angle measurements plugged into the HCA and the score itself are averages, so there is no way to tell if this 0.6 variation is measurement error or does imply a slight visual difference between the stones. Either way, "slight" is the key word for me here. Between these stones, it is just a matter of color versus clarity, and the H grade would be white enough for most, especially in a well cut round below 1 carat. Is there an Iscope available for the first stone as well? How about the GIA inclusions plot for the E-SI2 ? Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 8/20/2004 12:24:51 AM

P: 8/20/2004 12:41:20 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	valeria, the images are all for the E SI2, and I have no image for the first one, but only GIA cert.
Posted: 8/20/2004 12:41:20 PM

P: 8/25/2004 3:24:08 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	I'm currently looking at another item, Comparing to preivous SI2 one, which one do you think is better. The item measurement is: 0.91 H SI1; Depth 61.7; Table 57; GIA Girdle STK-TK,F; Polish Very Good; Symmetry Very Good; Fluorescence Faint;Dimention 6.15-6.21X3.81
Posted: 8/25/2004 3:24:08 PM

P: 8/25/2004 3:26:11 PM
Silver TypeS Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 8/25/2004 Member Since: 8/17/2004	here is the ideal scope image, can anyone explain to me based on the image? Thanks a lot
Posted: 8/25/2004 3:26:11 PM

P: 8/25/2004 7:16:24 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Silver TypeS pass on this one,WF has some beautiful stones not this one, girdle too thick,IS picture looks bad . it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 8/25/2004 7:16:24 PM

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