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| P: 7/7/2004 3:03:15 PM | |
yenbai Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 7/20/2004 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Hello All, I am from YenBai Mine, YenBai, Vietnam. Have you ever heard of existance of any Red Beryl specimen mined from Burma? Thanks
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| Posted: 7/7/2004 3:03:15 PM | |
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There are 27 replies to this message. There are 27 replies on this page. |
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| P: 7/7/2004 3:38:56 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Noooo ! This is new, right  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 7/7/2004 3:38:56 PM | |
| P: 7/7/2004 3:50:07 PM | |
katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004 |
---------------- Nope. Unless this is a new find  . I've only heard of the bixbite and pezzotaite, found in Utah and Madagascar, respectively.Maybe Mogok (that's the avatar name of the gentleman) can check stuff out for you. He works at AIGS, Bangkok, and he frequents this forum, as well. PM or email him, maybe? I'll be curious to hear more of this.  
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| Posted: 7/7/2004 3:50:07 PM | |
| P: 7/7/2004 9:24:53 PM | |
Vincent Pardieu Cut Rock Total Posts: 408 Last Post: 3/7/2008 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Never heard about red beryl in Burma, never heard about emeralds in Burma... Sorry. Anyway: I rectify: Never heard YET about that... Burma is such a country that weel many things are still to be discovered there! Vincent Pardieu, "travel addicted gemologist". |
| Posted: 7/7/2004 9:24:53 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 10:27:59 AM | |
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yenbai Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 7/20/2004 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Thanks, AnA, Indeed I am very new to this forum. Mogok, Thank you for your answer. As a matter of fact we digged up some rough specimen and the tests conclude to be beryl, purple red color.
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| Posted: 7/8/2004 10:27:59 AM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 12:31:54 PM | |
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Vincent Pardieu Cut Rock Total Posts: 408 Last Post: 3/7/2008 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
You have a red beryl mine in burma? Hum... Is it a joke? Can you tell more about this? I'm going back in Burma next week for a scientific research trip... I would be very curious about that! All the best, Vincent Pardieu, "travel addicted gemologist". |
| Posted: 7/8/2004 12:31:54 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 12:54:34 PM | |
CaptAubrey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 862 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 3/28/2004 |
---------------- then why post a message asking if anyone had heard of it?
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| Posted: 7/8/2004 12:54:34 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 1:04:35 PM | |
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yenbai Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 7/20/2004 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Hi Mogok, I am from North Vietnam not Burma. We digged up a rough 6 months ago and suceeded to have a faceted stone of 1,10 carats and sold. I have a bigger stone presently. What I am looking is to see if Burma has something similar because Burma and Vietnam are of the same geographical region millions years ago. Usually We dig up only ruby, star-ruby, spinel and sometimes sapphires. Beryl find is very very rare even for me. Thanks
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| Posted: 7/8/2004 1:04:35 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 1:19:36 PM | |
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Vincent Pardieu Cut Rock Total Posts: 408 Last Post: 3/7/2008 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Chao Anh? Hello YenBai, On my last trip to Hanoi i was presented several emeralds that were told me to be from the Luc yen area... The owner was somedoby that I believe quite trustable, but I did not had the possibility to check the stones and enquiry about it really. You are right Luc Yen and Quy Chau in Vietnam are quite close about the geology from the burmese deposits. They are at the end of this line of deposit beginning in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Bouthan, Burma, China and finally Vietnam in which we can found metamosphic rubies and sapphires... So you have a mine in Luc Yen? Well me be one of these days I will come to see you... Is it possible? i specialise myself in gemstone deposit from south east Asia and Vietnam is one of my favorite countries in the region: 14 trips to your wonderful country already! Well Vietnam is such an attractive and beautiful country for French people (Toy la ngoy phap...) especially the north... You can reply on the forum or using "private message" All the best, cam on... Vincent Pardieu, "travel addicted gemologist". |
| Posted: 7/8/2004 1:19:36 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 1:51:40 PM | |
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yenbai Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 7/20/2004 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Cam' o'n anh. Luc yen is my region. I and friends exploit several mines (earth holes). Vous etes Francais? Pourriez vous me contacter par email. Le mien est antoinehoang@hotmail.com Chao- va- hen. gap. lai.
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| Posted: 7/8/2004 1:51:40 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 8:40:47 PM | |
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katbadness Cut Rock Total Posts: 459 Last Post: 8/25/2005 Member Since: 1/29/2004 |
---------------- YenBai, Mogok, This is exciting!!  Do post information on what you find, please! Inquiring mind really wants to know.  
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| Posted: 7/8/2004 8:40:47 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 8:56:26 PM | |
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Vincent Pardieu Cut Rock Total Posts: 408 Last Post: 3/7/2008 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Chao Anh! Vang toy la ngoy phap... Vous parlez aussi francais? Enchante de vous rencontrer ici! J'espere que ce sera l'occasion d'une interessante rencontre lors de ma prochaine visite au Vietnam! Mon vietnamien n'etant pas vraiment brillant donc je ne pourrai pas vous ecrire dans cette belle mais difficile langue. J'adore le Tonkin... Argh... Rien que d'ecrire ca ca me demange de prendre un billet d'avion! For our english speaking friend: Vietnam is such a beautiful country especially for me the north with its great landscapes. I cannot say which country i love more: Vietnam or Burma... And they both have wonderful rubies... Well here is just for the pleasure of color stone lover a photo taken from a recent week end passed in Ha Long bay at the sunset from the boat. Colors are not enhanced... Such a beautiful country! All the best,  Vincent Pardieu, "travel addicted gemologist". |
| Posted: 7/8/2004 8:56:26 PM | |
| P: 7/8/2004 11:48:13 PM | |
MerKaBa Rough Rock Total Posts: 23 Last Post: 6/19/2005 Member Since: 6/9/2004 |
Hi, I just had to jump on here b/c I too love Vietnam and its minearls. I visited several areas there about a year ago and it was undoubtedly one of the most interesting countries I have been to thus far. Incredibly beautiful!!! I was able to meet the ruby mine owner and a wonderful gemologist there in Hanoi who was beyond friendly and enthusiastic to share his knowledge. I saw no emeralds or red beryl but you have some fabulous aquamarines there, though I only saw a few. I also love the rubies and tourmaline carvings. I was very surprised with the variety of minerals....kyanite, jasper, interesting quartz, garnet, augite, tourmaline and many more. The spinels were impressively large as well. I got a couple of big ones. Anyway, I really love Vietnam and it's minerals and I hope to return in the near future. Perhaps, you could show me some of these beryls.
Peace, love, diamonds and all the money in between, |
| Posted: 7/8/2004 11:48:13 PM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 4:24:42 AM | |
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arpe Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 9/3/2004 Member Since: 9/3/2004 |
Hello YenBai, Let me introduce myself, Arpe is aa small busines in Souhtern Californa, cutting gems, designing and fabricating one of a kind jewelry. I will be in VN late September/October and would be very interested in meeting with sources of rough gems. Your questions regarding red beryl - Morganite from Pala, CA is about as close as I have ever come (nice pink color). I would be interesed in meeting during my visii. Please contact me at damrudy@hotmail.com. Best regards, Rudolf rudolf pengler |
| Posted: 9/3/2004 4:24:42 AM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 9:54:59 AM | |
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lotus Rough Rock Total Posts: 15 Last Post: 9/3/2004 Member Since: 8/26/2004 |
Reading about how lovely Vietnam and its gems are makes me want to go there too! The next time I visit Singapore (where I'm from) from Paris (where I live), I must make a trip there! Just would like to know if it would be possible or advisable for individual consumers like myself to visit a mine, or would it be more intelligent for me to find someone who cuts and sells (just after the stones are out of the mine)? And any recommendations, please? Some Ebay sellers (Thaigem, Bangkokgems etc) sell direct from Bangkok, and their gems cost almost nothing, do you know the quality of these gems? Thank you for any clarifications, I'm trying to learn on Pricescope!
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| Posted: 9/3/2004 9:54:59 AM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 12:11:06 PM | |
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yowahking Cut Rock Total Posts: 317 Last Post: 11/13/2004 Member Since: 8/16/2004 |
As a consumer, going to the mines may be a learning experience, but sort of like going to a farm in Nebraska to see cattle while looking for a good steak. There are so many cutters and dealers that sell gems so cheap, you can not buy a single stone or a couple stones from the mines and get any deal. Often you will buy the rough that the miner knows will yield very little. Been there, done that. After 18 years and thousands of experiences, I still learn every trip. I am looking for an orangy red spinel from Vietnam that I have a hard time finding in Bangkok. I will be in Thailand in about 10 days if you know of any material there. It is brighter than most Sri Lankan spinel. Scott Bohall |
| Posted: 9/3/2004 12:11:06 PM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 12:28:30 PM | |
spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004 |
Hi Scott, do you have a photo of the orangy red spinel you are looking for? spinel.
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| Posted: 9/3/2004 12:28:30 PM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 12:35:41 PM | |
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yowahking Cut Rock Total Posts: 317 Last Post: 11/13/2004 Member Since: 8/16/2004 |
No sir, I do not. Sold them all and forgot to save one for me. I will be in Thailand and HK from 12th to 23 and hoping to find enough great gems to last through Christmas. There is a gem cutter in AZ from Vietnam who occasionally had some. Most were included a bit, but the few that were not were not expensive, just looked like it. It seems very enderpriced to me, as the Russian variety I love which is a neon pink is overpriced to me. (still buy it though)
Scott Bohall |
| Posted: 9/3/2004 12:35:41 PM | |
| P: 9/3/2004 4:09:07 PM | |
elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
---------------- Do you have photos of good orangy red material, Spinel? I have a couple of spinels here from rough sourced from Luc Yen (but with fantastic American cutting) visiting here that were represented as orangy red before cutting, but when finished they are more towards pink/purple than orange, but with subtle orange flashes. Very pretty stones but not what I ordered . My first photos were very poor but I'll put one up if I can take something a little better.
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| Posted: 9/3/2004 4:09:07 PM | |
| P: 9/4/2004 10:53:02 AM | |
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spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004 |
No, I dont have any orangy red spinel. Most of what I have - cut here in america - are pinkish red or raspberry red spinels. I am to spend the whole month of october at the sources, will try to have orangy red. Try to post your photo of orangy red even the photo is not perfect. I would like to see the color to be more sure. Spinel.
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| Posted: 9/4/2004 10:53:02 AM | |
| P: 9/4/2004 3:14:20 PM | |
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elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
As I said, these definitely aren't what I'd call orangy red, else I'd be keeping them . Raspberry is a great descriptor for these...I'm not a color expert but to my eye the key color leans more towards the purple side of red (or maybe an orangy-purplish-pink? ) whereas I thought the very top/most expensive stones are straight red, then next a slightly orangy red. These are distinctly pinkish and medium tone, but they dark out some in direct or incandescent lighting. Here are two fairly representative shots, at least here on my laptop screen. I've included some late summer tomatoes in the photo as a color reference .
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| Posted: 9/4/2004 3:14:20 PM | |
| P: 9/4/2004 3:15:01 PM | |
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elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
And the second photo in different lighting...
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| Posted: 9/4/2004 3:15:01 PM | |
| P: 9/4/2004 6:52:21 PM | |
Cave Keeper Cut Rock Total Posts: 264 Last Post: 9/23/2005 Member Since: 6/30/2004 |
The first one - the one with the tomatoes in the foreground : Are you sure it isn't a ruby?---------------- Thunder Storm Maker (Grand Master), creating havoc in the Heavens when active. Otherwise just a lazy Cave Keeper, sleeping on a huge pile of tiny glittery rocks, small dazzling stones and big sparkling pebbles. |
| Posted: 9/4/2004 6:52:21 PM | |
| P: 9/4/2004 11:16:55 PM | |
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yowahking Cut Rock Total Posts: 317 Last Post: 11/13/2004 Member Since: 8/16/2004 |
Looks pretty nice, how big, how much?
Scott Bohall |
| Posted: 9/4/2004 11:16:55 PM | |
| P: 9/5/2004 8:27:44 AM | |
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elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
Sent you a pm Scott.
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| Posted: 9/5/2004 8:27:44 AM | |
| P: 9/5/2004 9:37:35 PM | |
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spinel Cut Rock Total Posts: 146 Last Post: 1/10/2006 Member Since: 8/4/2004 |
Your stone is definitively pinkish red and nice. The cut seems to be superb. I would like to have a pm from you too, can't I? Curious to see your stone at a larger (macro) view. spinel.
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| Posted: 9/5/2004 9:37:35 PM | |
| P: 9/6/2004 12:38:09 PM | |
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elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
Sent you a pm too spinel . Sorry I don't have a real macro lens so for now these are the best I can do. At least the color turned out ok, I have to work hard just for that . One of these days I'll invest in the lens and try to rig up a light box of some kind.
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| Posted: 9/6/2004 12:38:09 PM | |
| P: 11/2/2005 2:55:30 AM | |
$aokim999 Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 11/2/2005 Member Since: 11/2/2005 |
HI . i'm from viet nam, yen bai city :D http://yenbairock.com |
| Posted: 11/2/2005 2:55:30 AM | |
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