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P: 6/28/2004 10:19:36 PM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	I am interested in a diamond located on goodoldgold.com. I have made my decision between this stone and a G/VVS1 1.02 Carat stone from solomonbrothers.com. I need to know if anyone has any experience with goodoldgold. Here is a link to the diamond I am interested in. http://www.goodoldgold.com/marquise_1_11ct_d_vs2.htm I really like how the light performs on this diamond. My only concerns are the clarity and the price. I see where it shows the small inclusions, but will these be noticeable with the eye? Also, does anyone know if this company will negotiate prices? I will be purchasing a diamond tomorrow probably, so wish me luck
Posted: 6/28/2004 10:19:36 PM

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P: 6/28/2004 10:24:57 PM
ep6585 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 609 Last Post: 12/28/2008 Member Since: 5/10/2004	A lot of people on PS have used GOG and have been very happy with their experience. Do a search to read more. I'm currently working with them to find a diamond for me. They've been great to work with.
Posted: 6/28/2004 10:24:57 PM

P: 6/28/2004 10:36:22 PM
kevinng Cut Rock Total Posts: 398 Last Post: 3/1/2008 Member Since: 6/10/2004	I bought a diamond from GOG just last week, and I had a wonderful experience with them. I also have a beautiful diamond now. Jonathan is very knowledgeable and trustworthy. You are in good hands. If you are worried about the inclusion, ask Jonathan. He should be able to give you the answers you need. Here's the thread documenting my experience. It's very long because I am new at this, so I tried to be very careful. (Link to my Thread)
Posted: 6/28/2004 10:36:22 PM

P: 6/28/2004 10:46:12 PM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Thanks for the input. I will definitely call tomorrow, so I can ask some questions about this diamond. The only other question that I have for you guys is on the pictures showing the brilliantscope analysis, I notice the horizontal dark spots in the center of the diamond. Is this what people keep referring to as the bowtie? And if so then is this a terribly bad one, or is it about normal for a marquise? Thanks a lot.
Posted: 6/28/2004 10:46:12 PM

P: 6/28/2004 10:47:42 PM
researcher Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,440 Last Post: 5/26/2008 Member Since: 4/27/2004	I haven't bought from GOG, but would trust Jonathan and his selection of diamonds. He not only knows his stuff, but he gets rave reviews from everyone. As for a clarity of VS2, I say go for it! It will absolutely be eye clean, and you'll be getting more for your money (clarity can really increase the price of a diamond).
Posted: 6/28/2004 10:47:42 PM

P: 6/29/2004 12:01:24 AM
kevinng Cut Rock Total Posts: 398 Last Post: 3/1/2008 Member Since: 6/10/2004	Yes, make use of Jonathan's excellent service and knowledge. You will be paying for it if you purchase his diamond anyway.
Posted: 6/29/2004 12:01:24 AM

P: 6/29/2004 12:35:36 AM
JadeLeaves Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,464 Last Post: 7/2/2009 Member Since: 4/24/2004	I'm another satisfied customer of GOG! Jon is awesome to work with - you're in good hands there! .:. What has been walked on is not where I want to go. .:.
Posted: 6/29/2004 12:35:36 AM

P: 6/29/2004 12:49:35 AM
caratgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 634 Last Post: 12/22/2004 Member Since: 1/1/2003	---------------- On 6/28/2004 10:46:12 PM jashmore wrote: Thanks for the input. I will definitely call tomorrow, so I can ask some questions about this diamond. The only other question that I have for you guys is on the pictures showing the brilliantscope analysis, I notice the horizontal dark spots in the center of the diamond. Is this what people keep referring to as the bowtie? And if so then is this a terribly bad one, or is it about normal for a marquise? Thanks a lot.---------------- That is the tiniest bowtie I have seen on a marquise diamond! Not normal at all, but in a very good way. Also, the VS2 inclusions seem quite small. Probably not visible from any view. Good luck on your conversation with GOG tomorrow. Caratgirl Just a Diamond Lover
Posted: 6/29/2004 12:49:35 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:08:33 AM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	EHHHHHHHEEEEMMMMM!!!! You're welcome for the link to the diamond.... And yes, I've used and am using GOG. You have nothing to worry about. ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:08:33 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:15:52 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 6/28/2004 10:19:36 PM jashmore wrote: My only concerns are the clarity and the price. ---------------- The inclusions seem noticeable... at 30X They should dissapear in person and it would likely take me some time to locate them at 10X... Price is yet another matter, but asking for a marq with good brilliance is quite the same as asking for the proverbial needle. VVS is much easier to find Besides, there is a D-VS1 in the neighbourhood (LINK) - different shape, about the same size and definitely as good light return more 'veenly' distributed. Any thoughts Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:15:52 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:20:04 AM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Hehe, sorry moremoremore. I do owe you for posting that link for me. When you first posted it, I didn't even realize that it was a company. I thought it was just some information on a diamond. This place is starting to sound really good from all of the positive comments you guys have made. I just hope he will be willing to come down a little on the price, because I do have a budget and if he can't then I will have to resort to my other option. Oh well, either way the smile on my girlfriend's face two weeks from now will make all of this 'hard work' worth it.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:20:04 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:23:09 AM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	valeria, I had looked at this diamond also, but I saw where people said that the medium blue flourescence on a D color diamond is not necessarily a good thing. That was the main reason for me not choosing this one.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:23:09 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:24:03 AM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	The 1.11ct D VS2 performs very well for marquise. As for the price, I would expect a little better symmetry for $6k, but it will hardly be noticible... except maybe in diffuse lighting AND if your staring intently at it. As for GOG, I can't say enough good things about them. I was a VERY annoying customer and they treated me with patience, kindness, and professionalism. They even got me a great rock! Even though Jon is good about responding back via e-mail... YOU MUST CALL in order to work with any speed. They have a vacation coming up soon, check their Web site for more info. VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:24:03 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:26:57 AM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	I think it's a fair price. If you're on a budget, consider going down a color grade or perhaps aiming for a carat weight under 1ct. You have plenty of room for compromise and it will still be a great diamond! VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:26:57 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:28:15 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Both these guys are very impressive ! However, the more evenly red I-scope picture of the D-VS1 makes me preffer it. The Brilliance scope results are not helping much to tell these two apart, as far as I know. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:28:15 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:31:39 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 6/29/2004 10:23:09 AM jashmore wrote: medium blue flourescence on a D color diamond is not necessarily a good thing. ---------------- I see... and to some extent tris is true - more than "faint" fluorescence would cause a discount for a D-F diamond. A decade ago it would have been a premium! This is just saying that yes, there is some pricing effect (so VS1 and VS2 come at about the same cost due to it) but there is only a very faint, if any visual effect of the fluorescence. Anyway, there is hardly a reason to prefer one of these stones over another. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:31:39 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:31:54 AM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	jashmore- i really do crave attention and praise..lol GOG is the first place I look when I see someone looking for a stone...all the info and analysis is right there...J makes it easy for us!!!! He might be willing to neg if you pay cash maybe...how much I'm not sure...Keep in mind that his prices reflect the service he gives and also the fact that you can upgrade for life by spending only $500 more! Good luck to ya!! ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:31:54 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:40:46 AM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Well, if I tell him that if he comes down to $5500 and I offer cash for a purchase TODAY do you think this will have any effect? I really do need to make a purchase by today or tomorrow though, because I still want to have time to look over the diamond, perhaps get it appraised, and figure out what I'm going to do about the setting. Perhaps I will try to buy a setting from him also if they have what I am looking for. Maybe this would help him come down to my price range on the diamond also. I definitely don't want to sound rude or disrespectul to the guy, but I am literally in crunch time here. p.s. If anyone wonders how I am always able to reply immediately after someone posts it's because I literally have nothing to do at my job
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:40:46 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:45:01 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 6/29/2004 10:40:46 AM jashmore wrote: do you think this will have any effect? ---------------- I would not bet, but it can't hurt to try If anything, this is not allot to ask, and Jonthan may have some alternatives to offer too. settings ? definitely. On the "Show me the ring" forum there are a couple of rings made entirely (stone and setting) at Good Old Gold for ref, if this helps. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:45:01 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:47:07 AM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	that's quite a bit of a discount though considering that the profit margain is only about 10%... ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:47:07 AM

P: 6/29/2004 10:48:09 AM
bling Cut Rock Total Posts: 487 Last Post: 5/17/2005 Member Since: 4/17/2003	I bought my ering from GOG and Jonathan and the whole staff was fantastic! Even when i did my trade in, they were with me 100% of the way! I would never hesitate to recommend anyone to them.. good luck with you stone! please post pics when the ring is complete..we love pictures!
Posted: 6/29/2004 10:48:09 AM

P: 6/29/2004 11:02:51 AM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Here is the setting that she likes. This pic is from bluenile.com and the baguettes are 1/6C t/w, and it is priced at $1,050. I'm not sure if I am doing this picture the correct way though....
Posted: 6/29/2004 11:02:51 AM

P: 6/29/2004 11:21:59 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	The setting looks like a simple enough catalog model - somethis that can surely be found on GOG's Ingwer catalog ... You can also check at leoingwer.com although their "recommended retail" is not necesarily the price you will be quoted. Also, these off the shelf settings may not come with side-stones matching the high grades of your center stone: unless a solitaire is out of the question, I would ask about this. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/29/2004 11:21:59 AM

P: 6/29/2004 2:31:37 PM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Can someone give me Jonathan's e-mail address? He told me to send him an e-mail, and I sent one, but I wasn't quite sure if it was the right address. Thanks.
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:31:37 PM

P: 6/29/2004 2:32:41 PM
ep6585 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 609 Last Post: 12/28/2008 Member Since: 5/10/2004	goodoldgold@earthlink.net
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:32:41 PM

P: 6/29/2004 2:33:34 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	I should have it memorized....goodoldgold@earthlink.net But I suggest calling instead of emailing..the dude is busy!(probably responding to my 1000 emails!) ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:33:34 PM

P: 6/29/2004 2:35:46 PM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	Yes... Call, call, call. It's the only way to get anything done for certain! VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:35:46 PM

P: 6/29/2004 2:36:29 PM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	I called him on my lunch break, but he wasn't able to go quite as low as I had hoped on the diamond, so he told me he would send me some specs on other diamonds he had in my price range. That is the e-mail address I used, so I guess he is just busy today.
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:36:29 PM

P: 6/29/2004 2:50:34 PM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	See that's the great thing about Jon. If he doesn't have what you need in your budget... he WILL find it for you if you want. VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 6/29/2004 2:50:34 PM

P: 6/29/2004 4:46:17 PM
jashmore Rough Rock Total Posts: 22 Last Post: 7/1/2004 Member Since: 6/25/2004	Well, I finally made a purchase!! I got the 1.11ct D VS2 diamond that I wanted. Thanks to everyone for all of the help and for recommending goodoldgold. Thanks a lot also to Jonathan for negotiating with a poor college student on an already fair price. Now all I have to do is get a setting and this exhausting process will be over. Thanks again guys
Posted: 6/29/2004 4:46:17 PM

P: 6/29/2004 5:04:24 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	YEAH!!!!! Told ya he's awesome!!!! ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 6/29/2004 5:04:24 PM

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