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On 6/24/2004 8:33:54 PM aljdewey wrote:

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Vtigger - it seems like you are resistant to this notion, but look at his post again.

The crown is 15.5.......that's *percent*, NOT degrees., and it follows that the pavilion express is ALSO *percent*. There's NO WAY any ideal diamond would have a crown angle of only 15.5.....that's a percentage. They both are percentages.

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On 6/24/2004 8:50:41 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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aljedwey
that 15.5 % is the crown height not crown angle ,their ideal crown angle is same as ags 33.7-35.8.
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Do you just like to argue for the sake of arguing, Vtigger? 

I never said the 15.5 was an angle measurement.....it isn't.  The 15.5 is the crown height - 15.5 PERCENT.  And the 43.7 is pavilion DEPTH, not angle....43.7 percent.

Don't take my word for it.  Why don't you ask Dave or one of the other appraisers here if LK stones have their OWN measurements for "ideal".     Nevermind......believe what you want to believe.  It's your money to burn.

I don't know how to say this without offending.....and I truly don't want to offend.....but either your brochure is wrong or you are reading it incorrectly, Vtigger.  I'm just trying to help, but if you don't want it, that's fine.

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On 6/24/2004 8:56:34 PM aljdewey wrote:

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On 6/24/2004 8:50:41 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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aljedwey
that 15.5 % is the crown height not crown angle ,their ideal crown angle is same as ags 33.7-35.8.
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Do you just like to argue for the sake of arguing, Vtigger?

I never said the 15.5 was an angle measurement.....it isn't. The 15.5 is the crown height - 15.5 PERCENT. And the 43.7 is pavilion DEPTH, not angle....43.7 percent.

Don't take my word for it. Why don't you ask Dave or one of the other appraisers here if LK stones have their OWN measurements for 'ideal'. Nevermind......believe what you want to believe. It's your money to burn.

I don't know how to say this without offending.....and I truly don't want to offend.....but either your brochure is wrong or you are reading it incorrectly, Vtigger. I'm just trying to help, but if you don't want it, that's fine.

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it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

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On 6/24/2004 10:09:25 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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i just wish i had a digital camera then i could post the picture of their brochure.  it still reads pav 42.2-43.8 ----------------

vtigger......I'm not disputing that it reads pav 42.2-43.8.....what I'm trying to explain is that these measurements are not ANGLES.  Yes, they *do* relate to the pavilion, but they are not angles.  They refer to the pavilion depth as an expression of *percent*. 

There are two ways of expressing crown and pavilion measurements.  One is the give the specific angles - 34.5 and 40.7, for example.  The other way is to express them in terms of crown height and pavilion depth, and those measurements are expressed as percentages.....the crown height is 15.6% and the pavilion depth is 43.2%.

For example, my diamond measurements are as follows:  60.6% depth, 56% table, 34.5 crown ANGLE, 40.7 pavilion ANGLE.  The 34.5 crown angle equates to a 15.2% crown height; the 40.7 pavilion angles equates to 42.9% pavilion depth.

I believe you that the brochure says pavilion tolerances are between 42.2 and 43.8, but what I'm saying is that those are *not* angles, they are pavilion depth percentage parameters.

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On 6/25/2004 12:50:23 PM daems wrote:

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Third, never buy a diamond with a 0.7 culet.
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On 6/24/2004 8:54:29 PM brandonb wrote:

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Everything is listed in percents...

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vtigger..take a look at what brandon wrote. 43.7 is the % not the angle and it makes a hell of a lot more sense as a % than an angle. your brochure may be misprinted.

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On 6/25/2004 3:09:32 PM Mara wrote:

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On 6/24/2004 8:54:29 PM brandonb wrote:

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Everything is listed in percents...

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vtigger..take a look at what brandon wrote. 43.7 is the % not the angle and it makes a hell of a lot more sense as a % than an angle. your brochure may be misprinted.
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it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.