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P: 6/3/2004 10:28:52 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Here are the specs on a stone I'm considering. I welcome opinions, especially re: whether it might border on too shallow and will appear dark when examined up close. .971 ct RB E SI1 6.32X6.34X3.92 table: 54% total depth: 61.8% crown angle: 35.3 crown %: 16.1 pav angle: 40.3 pav %: 42.1 girdle: 1.7-2.2, faceted Thanks in advance! quaeritur
Posted: 6/3/2004 10:28:52 AM

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P: 6/3/2004 10:29:59 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	And here is a magnified photo... quaeritur
Posted: 6/3/2004 10:29:59 AM

P: 6/3/2004 10:49:44 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	OK, here's another question. This stone scores a 0.9 on the HCA, and comes in at a 2A cut according to AGA. It's also certed AGS 0. Does AGS grade by crown/pavilion angles or percentages? I'm guessing angles, because the %s on this stone fall just barely out of the AGS standard for an "ideal" stone... quaeritur
Posted: 6/3/2004 10:49:44 AM

P: 6/3/2004 3:14:22 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	AWWWW c'mon! there's gotta be SOMEONE out there with an opinion, fer cryin' eye! Pretty please? I have H&A pics too, if that will entice anyone... quaeritur
Posted: 6/3/2004 3:14:22 PM

P: 6/3/2004 3:55:31 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	This diamond is perfect. Stephan
Posted: 6/3/2004 3:55:31 PM

P: 6/3/2004 3:57:54 PM
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004	Hi, I am not an expert, but I have been hanging out here for awhile. It looks like a perfectly lovely stone. The i-scope looks very nice. The leakage around the girdle is what you generally see in a well-cut stone, and some of the experts are of the opinion that this leakage actually increases the contrast of a stone which can help the performance in diffuse light. I like it. Shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter.
Posted: 6/3/2004 3:57:54 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:17:36 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Everything dead in the middle of everybody's ideal range with the total looking like Tolkowsky's poster kid... and "shallow" 16% crown... this must be a joke, right ? Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:17:36 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:21:58 PM
pinkflamingo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 507 Last Post: 10/18/2009 Member Since: 3/25/2004	it may appear a little small for a .97? my .91 has a 6.35 mm diameter. subtle but something to consider. I know .97s are more expensive than .91s. otherwise it looks perfect!!
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:21:58 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:27:07 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	---------------- On 6/3/2004 5:21:58 PM pinkflamingo wrote: it may appear a little small for a .97? my .91 has a 6.35 mm diameter. ---------------- hm... than it is perfect. I think your are talking about 0.01mm ? That is defintely less than anyone can measure precisely and it doesn't "look" in any way... If I remember right, this size was found common among 1 carat no-ideals in the Leonid's last survey (LINK) Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:27:07 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:27:25 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	It looks like a beautiful stone. I think the shallowness issue is more around HCA of .5 and lower. This stone has a steeper crown angle to offset the more shallow pavilion angle, and that's a good thing since it's the combination of the 2 that define steep or shallow in a stone. My guess is that this combination is a good one since the HCA is not so low.
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:27:25 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:30:11 PM
Rank Amateur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,547 Last Post: 5/5/2009 Member Since: 2/26/2003	I doubt that it will appear dark, but you might want to have a look at the inclusions - they even show on the IS photo. It may or may not be "eye clean".
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:30:11 PM

P: 6/3/2004 5:34:28 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	Good point on the inclusions -- check them out. Also, I wanted to note that the stone seems to be tightly cut -- with so little variance in the diameter and girdle. That's always nice.
Posted: 6/3/2004 5:34:28 PM

P: 6/3/2004 6:32:02 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	From the information posted looks like it could be a very nice stone. And, icey white!!! Yeah, make sure about the inclusions. But, I LOVE your dogs. A natural ear & a cropped ear!
Posted: 6/3/2004 6:32:02 PM

P: 6/3/2004 7:11:41 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Thanks for the feedback, everyone, I'm heaving a sigh of relief! Ana - I wasn't worried about the crown being too shallow, but rather the pavilion (hence that other thread on the HCA, that was about this stone). RA and lop - here's what the vendor had to say about the inclusions: "Microphotograph - Clearly shows two small white crystals on the edge of the table and a tiny feather on the opposite crown. I stared at the diamond very carefully trying to find the inclusions with my naked eye but couldn't pick them out. If your vision is better than mine and you use the right lighting then you might see them but barely. Even so, they are clear and subtle and blend. Nothing black - nothing in the middle. A great SI1." I'm trusting him on this one, I don't mind clear/white inclusions, even if I can just barely make them out with my naked eye. F&I - and they're both from rescue THANKS for the nice comment, I just adore my pups Thanks again everyone. I've learned SO much on this forum in the last few months! I'll post the H&A pics too, just because they're so purty. quaeritur
Posted: 6/3/2004 7:11:41 PM

P: 6/3/2004 7:47:13 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	---------------- On 6/3/2004 7:11:41 PM quaeritur wrote: F&I - and they're both from rescue THANKS for the nice comment, I just adore my pups ---------------- Handsome pups! One of mine came from my breed's rescue! She's turned out great - and has natural ear!
Posted: 6/3/2004 7:47:13 PM

P: 6/4/2004 2:39:54 AM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Here are the H&A images... quaeritur
Posted: 6/4/2004 2:39:54 AM

P: 6/4/2004 4:49:11 AM
researcher Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,440 Last Post: 5/26/2008 Member Since: 4/27/2004	I agree that this stone is a beauty , but I too am worried about those inclusions. People say that you see them less in round stones than fancy, but those look like they may be visible to the unaided eye....
Posted: 6/4/2004 4:49:11 AM

P: 6/4/2004 1:14:16 PM
quaeritur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,238 Last Post: 2/3/2005 Member Since: 3/12/2004	Thanks Researcher. I called the vendor back and had a second person look at it. She could not find the inclusions either, even looking in different lighting conditions. Also, the photo above is taken at 30X, which is considerably more than a 10X loupe. I have pretty good eyes, I'm curious as to what I'll see... I think I'm going to have this shipped to an independent appraiser near me before I purchase, to see it with mine own two eyes first. quaeritur
Posted: 6/4/2004 1:14:16 PM

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