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P:  6/1/2004 6:33:13 PM  
carina
carina

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Hearts and Arrows are a big rip off. No one needs to waste their hard earned money on perfect hearts and arrows. Use your human eye to analyze the brilliance and magnificent fire and scintillation of a diamond. After observing a good number of diamonds one that is not cut to perfect proportions will catch your eye and you will be able to use your common sense
to analyze the beauty of the diamond.

 


Posted:  6/1/2004 6:33:13 PM

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P: 6/1/2004 7:05:36 PM
diamondsbylauren
diamondsbylauren

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Hi Carina,
No one from the forum knows where you live, right......hehehehe
 
 
You will find that there are those people who see the value in H&A and those that do not.
 
There's a lot to be said for the consistency of  H&A diamonds- but I, for one, am not the one saying it!
I'm with your jeweler- use your eyes.
Furthermore, my eyes usually choose a 60% table non H&A when comparing

David

Posted:  6/1/2004 7:05:36 PM
P: 6/2/2004 2:04:59 AM
Dancing Fire
Dancing Fire

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On 6/1/2004 6:33:13 PM carina wrote:

Hearts and Arrows are a big rip off. No one needs to waste their hard earned money on perfect hearts and arrows. Use your human eye to analyze the brilliance and magnificent fire and scintillation of a diamond. After observing a good number of diamonds one that is not cut to perfect proportions will catch your eye and you will be able to use your common sense
to analyze the beauty of the diamond.----------------


carina
tell your vendor to show you both H&A and non H&A stone and see what your eyes are like. by his remarks, he probably doesn't deal with heart and arrow stones. seems like the old time dealers loves the 60-60 cuts, like david of(diamondsbylauren) and the newer generation dealers loves the modern ideal cuts. i'm sure there are beautiful stones in both style cuts. but your vendor is right about one thing, make sure you see the stone before any making a decision.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  6/2/2004 2:04:59 AM
P: 6/2/2004 2:25:30 AM
eyesoftexas
eyesoftexas

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Eyes do not lie - but numbers do. You can pick a great cut using your eyes and I know sevral jewelrs who do that. In fact one jeweler told me that she would separate parcels of diamonds using only her eyes on each diamond for a few seconds and she could tell the great cuts from the bad ones.

EofT

Posted:  6/2/2004 2:25:30 AM
P: 6/2/2004 6:24:03 AM
valeria101
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Right... now, where do I go wrong?

Has the jeweler shown you as many diamonds as he might have seen to build some experience? This sounds like either taking a second job for a while or trusting your jeweler from all your hart

Either is great, so is modeling diamonds, for someone so inclined.

It surely is easy to lie no matter which way: by numbers or in person. It is never mathematics telling some absolute, abstract truth - just people (more or less honest) presenting their share of understanding (more or less extensive). Same do I, only not in this industry... And then there are places like PS, ready open for whoever wants to ease the stress of spending a small fortune on a tiny item he/she knows has no understanding of. Not that buyers never get in trouble with important purchases - but is there a general solution?

Sometimes I wander if just ANY kind of information complete with quality scale and price list wouldn’t do as well as the intricate HCA and H&A story here. Inexplicably, things that make sense seem to de slightly better - unfortunately, I really mean "slightly" (this is a general statement not based on research about diamond retailers). Please take it lightly and tell me where I go wrong, if you find it worth while...




Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  6/2/2004 6:24:03 AM

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