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 Fancy yellow sidestones- cost?

P:  5/31/2004 3:59:25 AM  
League
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I am interested in getting an estimate for a pair of round fancy yellow diamond sidestones - either fancy yellow or fancy intense yellow (would love vivid, but I think they would be too costly!) The total weight should be arouond .80.

Please feel free to PM me

edit: Forgot to mention clarity! SI1 is fine, as long as they are eye-clean.

 


Posted:  5/31/2004 3:59:25 AM

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P: 5/31/2004 9:09:56 AM
chialea
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Well, if I were you I would get gemesis diamonds. They're real diamonds that come out of a lab, very reasonably priced. If only they had some other colours other than yellow and orange, I'd be all over them. (or rather, I'd still be all over them, but not for my engagement ring, given my skin tone)

For SI quality rounds, their price listing suggests you'd be paying $2500/carat (so $1000 per stone) or $2375/carat (so $950 per stone) for intense/vivid yellow or intense/vivid yellow-orange respectively. myself, I like the pumpkiny orange colour, which is $2250/carat at that size range (so $900 per stone). This seems to be slightly more expensive than you'd pay for white diamonds, but not much at all. The natural ones look about twice as much or so, from the pricing info I could find (but it was a small sample I was extrapolating from, so might well be off.)

Btw, I found all the pricing info at http://www.rottermond.com/02-gemesisCD/priceSIR.html, but colour samples and retailer info is at http://www.gemesis.com.

Lea

Posted:  5/31/2004 9:09:56 AM
P: 5/31/2004 9:53:53 AM
valeria101
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Not that those lab-diamonds are cheap!!!

Anyway... you may find an answer to the same Q on an older thread (LINK ). The stats are somewhere down that long thread, so here's the citation (by David at DiamondsByLauren):

"I'll use well made Radiant Yellows as compared to H&A RBC's:
Y-Z ( natural Light Yellow) I would say the price is about what you'd pay for something in a L/VS
Fancy Light Yellow- K/VS
Fancy Yellow- G/VS
Fancy Intense Yellow- D/VVS
Fancy Vivid- D/IF plus 25-40%
In Natural Yellow Diamonds, VIVID is the most expensive color
Again, this is oversimplifying it to the N'th degree- but this gives the idea.":





This may be oversimplified, but if he prices his fancy yellow sides like this, than the price of two G/VS rounds of 0.4 cts each is not that bad ($900-$1000 / stone according to PS quotes). I suppose the cut of these makes a difference (the quote above was for radiant cut yellows, which is the mot common shape, but any possible side-stone shape can be yellow, half moons and bullets and what not ). Prices are not "that" over the top for fancy yellow.

Interestingly, the artificial and the natural "fancy yellow" would come at the same price if this info and the previous post about Gemex are put together... I think fancy intense and vivid would be more readily available (and cheaper) if comming from a lab though - but still I would definitely compare, since your are looking for stones way under 1ct, who knows... maybe the difference is not that huge. And here's (LINK) one example that makes me think so.


Hope this helps.




Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  5/31/2004 9:53:53 AM
P: 5/31/2004 6:44:54 PM
diamondsbylauren
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HI Everyone
Thanks for the quote AnA!
The story is entirely different if we're talkng Round Brilliant Fancy Colors.
You could just about move every yellow grade one slot down ( for example, a clean, well cut Fancy Intense Yellow Round could be more than a D/FL 
 
There's another thing- the human eye is amazing in it's ability to detect subtle undertones.
In addition to being the "wrong" design for capitolizing on the natural color within the rough, round fnay colors don't seem to carry their hue as well as radiant.
Here's a 2.05 Fancy Yellow Round- which, I recall, was about double what a Fancy Yellow radiant was going for at the time.
 
The "pumpkin" or orangey shades in RBC lack great sparkle to me.
 
In the lighter shades, like Fancy Light Yellow, a radiant looks very nice, but a round looks washed out- even an RBC stone with a GIA grade of Fancy Light Yellow is nowhere near as nice as a radiant of the same GIA shade.
 
The bottom line is that searhing for natural diamonds- in matching pairs of pure yellow may be a difficult task.  
 
Personally, I prefer a diamond which is natural, mined from the earth- but I'm sure that there will be those people that will spend that kind of money on "grown" diamonds. Heck, they make the real thing look like a bargain.

David

Posted:  5/31/2004 6:44:54 PM

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