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Is this diamond any good? Please help in a rush! |
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| P: 5/12/2004 12:00:30 PM | |
limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
Hi all, Is this diamond any good? GIA Grading Report ------------------ shape - round brilliant measurements - 6.39.6.34 x 4.01mm weight - 1.01 depth - 59% table - 63% girdle - thin to slightly thick culet - none polish - very good symmetry - very good clarity grade - vs1 color Grade - G fluorescence - none price is *$5700 Is the girdle/table/depth an ideal size relative to price? I am in a hurry, so please help! Regards, John x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:00:30 PM | |
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| P: 5/12/2004 12:05:41 PM | |
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002 |
---------------- Is it any good? Depends on your definition of "good". It's far from being well-proportioned in cut......the table is way too big. Also, a well-cut 1ct should measure about 6.50mm....and you can see this one falls short of that. I personally wouldn't consider this diamond, but I prefer well-cut diamonds. _____________________ |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:05:41 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:11:52 PM | |
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limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
By definition of good I meant by relative to the price.. How much more I am looking at $'wise in respect to have a 6.5mm and a smaller table? Very confused! Thanks, John x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:11:52 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:25:52 PM | |
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limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
My SECOND CHOICE is - GIA Report ---------- shape - Round Brilliant measurements - 6.37.6.41 x 4.03 weight - 1.02 depth - 63 table - 56 girdle - med to slighly thick culet - none polish - excellent symmetry - very good color - f clarity - vs1 fluorescence - none Price is $6100, so $400 difference. Is it worth it? What are the pros and cons? cheers, John x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:25:52 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:28:50 PM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
Given your criteria for "good," I would have to say it's close. It is deep and would not face up as a true 1ct stone. A quick search on pricescope showed slightly better cut stones for a couple of hundred dollars less (including one with 61.9% depth and 62% table with EX symmetry and VG polish for $5,300). If you are buying online, you can find slightly better. If the stone you are looking at is from a B&M, that's a pretty fair price.
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:28:50 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:34:50 PM | |
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
John, that first stone, did you by any chance reverse the numbers for table and depth. It's just that the diameter mm measurements don't make sense with a 59% depth. I would think they would be larger than 6.5 (slightly) not smaller. Recheck that if you can. Shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter. |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:34:50 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:35:49 PM | |
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Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
P.S. If you reverse the numbers 63 depth, 59 table then the mm measurements of 6.39 do make sense. A little small looking for a 1 ct. Shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter. |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:35:49 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:36:53 PM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
Another quick search on PS showed that you can get a 1.00 G VS1 with EX Sym and Polish, measurements of 6.50-6.55 X 3.89 with 59.6% depth and 58% table for about $5,500. That would seem to be a better choice. There is also a .98ct G VS1, with 59% depth and 58% table, Sym and Pol both VG, which actually will face up larger than your first stone with measurements of 6.49-6.55 X 3.85, and it is listed at $4,672, over $1,000 less than your first stone for one that will actually look larger. But don't forget, it will also depend on how they look to your eyes. Be comfortable with your choice. That's what matters most.
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:36:53 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 12:56:19 PM | |
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limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
shay, Thanks for that, Ill double check the measurements but I guess I could have noted it down wrong. So you think the first one is a little small? The sales rep said well it looks pretty! Give me a break, they all do to some degree! I went to this shop a few weeks back and this is the diamond she recommended. At that point I didnt have a clue what I was buying, in fact now I only know slightly more than I did then. x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 12:56:19 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 1:00:36 PM | |
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limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
madmarlin, cheers.. Would buying a 1.00ct be a good choice in case it got chipped etc. 1.00 seems to be on the mark. 1.01 is more expensive. For saving over 1k on a 0.96 sounds good to me, is this a good choice? In terms of appreciation does it make any odds about a having a 1ct, is that a better investment? Slightly less confused!.. Also buying online, have you had any experiences buying from Abazias? They seem to do the quotes on pricescope. x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 1:00:36 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 1:45:05 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
If you are in a hurry, it may make sense to choose a stone with a good load of info in place, so the lest surprises could come once you get it... At least this would make sense to me. Here's one (LINK (1.02, G-VS2, AGS0, HCA 1.7, $5533-$5675 since the PS search and the website gives different quotes...) Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 1:45:05 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 1:50:03 PM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
Limey, As to the 1ct threshold, it is a price point. You will see a price jump from just under 1ct (.98) to 1ct. There is also a psychological jump at that point as well. Even though the .98 I listed will face up larger than the 1.01 you listed, some people will have a problem that it is "only" .98ct. As to which is a better investment, I can't answer as I haven't bought a diamond as an investment. I just recently bought a diamond via a PS online vendor, but it wasn't from Abazias. I was very happy with my experience, and I have seen many posts from people who were happy with Abazias. Me, personally, having not seen the stones and just going on numbers and price, I would lean to the .98ct, as it appears to be a better cut, faces up larger, and is over $1,000 less expensive. For $1,000, I can get over that psychological hurdle!  I know that the PS vendors will send the stone to an independent appraiser for you prior to any money changing hands. If you have a good one near you, you can see the stone before buying. As I mentioned before, just be comfortable with your choice. As long as it looks good to you, and you feel that you are getting a good deal, based upon what you know about the 4 c's, that's all that matters. By the way, know that you are talking to another diamond consumer, not an expert by any means. I just went through what you are going through. Best of luck in your search.
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 1:50:03 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 1:50:57 PM | |
bling Cut Rock Total Posts: 487 Last Post: 5/17/2005 Member Since: 4/17/2003 |
i realize that time is a factor, but i think you can find much better stones in your price range if you do a search here on PS. the stones you listed will appear smaller than there ct weight..so you may want to consider the 0.98 stone that was suggested..its the same look as the ones you were considering, but probably a nicer cut. Good luck! 
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 1:50:57 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 1:57:51 PM | |
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8*flash Rough Rock Total Posts: 59 Last Post: 7/2/2004 Member Since: 7/15/2003 |
Those stones you are looking at are horrible. You can do 100x better on whiteflash.com. This is so much better http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-499879.htm
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 1:57:51 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 2:03:47 PM | |
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8*flash Rough Rock Total Posts: 59 Last Post: 7/2/2004 Member Since: 7/15/2003 |
A couple more much better ones: http://www.goodoldgold.com/0_92ct_f_si1_h%26a.htm http://www.goodoldgold.com/1_015ct_h_si1_h%26a.htm
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 2:03:47 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 2:45:12 PM | |
Hawkeye Rough Rock Total Posts: 29 Last Post: 5/23/2004 Member Since: 7/23/2003 |
If you are in a hurry, it may make sense to choose a stone with a good load of info in place, so the lest surprises could come once you get it... At least this would make sense to me. Here's one (LINK (1.02, G-VS2, AGS0, HCA 1.7, $5533-$5675 since the PS search and the website gives different quotes...) This stone has strong blue, that may be why the price is less than other G-VS2's in this size range. Be careful, ask the vendor how it faces up. (Hazy,milky etc..) Good luck on your diamond search.
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 2:45:12 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 2:59:17 PM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
On other quick thing, I only did quick searches for the color and clarity you had already been shown, G VS1. You can find more by varying a bit. I bought an H VS2 and the thing is beautiful, in my biased opinion. Dropping down to a VS2 may be a way to get more bang for your buck with the G color. However, I'm not trying to talk you out of G VS1. It's your diamond and your choice. That is a great color and clarity. I bet right now you are probably more confused than you were before you posted! 
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| Posted: 5/12/2004 2:59:17 PM | |
| P: 5/12/2004 4:32:43 PM | |
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limeys23 Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/12/2004 Member Since: 5/12/2004 |
my head is spinning! x |
| Posted: 5/12/2004 4:32:43 PM | |
| P: 5/14/2004 9:15:04 AM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
So, how did the search go?
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| Posted: 5/14/2004 9:15:04 AM | |
| P: 5/16/2004 4:16:47 PM | |
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maddie Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/16/2004 Member Since: 5/16/2004 |
very confusing - me and my boyfriend (limey23) have been searching for weeks now. this could go on forever. now we are considering a D vs2 that looks beautiful...
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| Posted: 5/16/2004 4:16:47 PM | |
| P: 5/17/2004 8:07:40 PM | |
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madmarlin Rough Rock Total Posts: 73 Last Post: 5/23/2007 Member Since: 2/20/2004 |
Well, hang in there. Been there, done that. Just make sure you find what you want and you are happy with your choice. And drop a post when the decision is made!
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| Posted: 5/17/2004 8:07:40 PM | |
| P: 5/18/2004 1:26:00 PM | |
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8*flash Rough Rock Total Posts: 59 Last Post: 7/2/2004 Member Since: 7/15/2003 |
D color is completely unnecessary as you will never ever be able to tell the difference between a D and an F and the price difference is HUGE. Go for the F VS2 and get yourself a bigger diamond! Or save a considerable chunk of change.
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| Posted: 5/18/2004 1:26:00 PM | |
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