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A good princess cut?

P: 5/11/2004 1:18:22 PM
dsong1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 36 Last Post: 6/30/2004 Member Since: 5/11/2004	I've been looking at this diamond at Christian Bernard: 1.01 carat GIA certified E color, S2 clarity 3mm, knife edge platinum ring The manager is willing to sell it to me for a total of $5100. That includes tax. What do you think?
Posted: 5/11/2004 1:18:22 PM

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P: 5/11/2004 1:33:24 PM
cmcwill Cut Rock Total Posts: 247 Last Post: 1/11/2005 Member Since: 2/26/2004	Hi Welcome to Pricescope! Do you have any other measurements on the stone? Fancies are really hard to judge without seeing them, but a few guidelines help! Try www.gemappraisers.com for their cut chart and choose the princess from the pull-down menu at the right. If this is a GIA stone it probably does not have crown and pavillion angle information on the cert, but ask your jeweler if he can get those numbers for you. Let us know what you find out! Colleen
Posted: 5/11/2004 1:33:24 PM

P: 5/11/2004 1:39:35 PM
dsong1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 36 Last Post: 6/30/2004 Member Since: 5/11/2004	Thanks Colleen! Well, I remember the depth was about 67%. What would you suggest as being the most important things in buying a diamond? All I have really known is to look at color and clarity. Is this still a good cut? There was also one at Rogers and Hollands that the manager was willing to sell for $4600 total including tax for an E,VS1 1 ct. but IGI cert. Please help me people. I'm going to propose this month and i'm starting to panic!
Posted: 5/11/2004 1:39:35 PM

P: 5/11/2004 1:42:04 PM
SFDavey Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 12/14/2004 Member Since: 4/26/2004	Don't panic!
Posted: 5/11/2004 1:42:04 PM

P: 5/11/2004 3:51:05 PM
robbe Cut Rock Total Posts: 145 Last Post: 4/8/2008 Member Since: 4/24/2003	67% is not too bad. i'm affraid it's not enough information. try to post some more numbers. good luck. robbe
Posted: 5/11/2004 3:51:05 PM

P: 5/11/2004 4:22:46 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	Welcome to a whole new world!!! Do yourself a favor and go to a good vendor who really only sells good cuts. Finding a good princess is such a pain...but worth it, I think. I almost gave up and went to a round (gasp! lol)...You really need to go to the gemappraisers cut chart and use it for BASIC guidance. Then, you need to see the stone in person and judge, with your eyes, if it is pleasing. Your eye plus that chart is a recipe for success! ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 5/11/2004 4:22:46 PM

P: 5/11/2004 4:37:54 PM
limey Cut Rock Total Posts: 264 Last Post: 7/14/2004 Member Since: 3/4/2004	see lots'n'lots'n'lots'n'lots'n'lots of diamonds... try and find a local dealer that sells brand name "ideal" cut rounds so that you start to get an idea as to what a well cut diamond is supposed to look like. Then compare to the Pricesses most local stores have. Get an idealscope! Use the cut charts at gemappraisers.com. I gave up on local store Princess and Radiants but you may ne very lucky.
Posted: 5/11/2004 4:37:54 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:05:14 PM
dsong1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 36 Last Post: 6/30/2004 Member Since: 5/11/2004	well, it wasnt in the store. the manager ordered it from somewhere else and he's bringing it to the store this friday. so i'm going to check it out. and then he'll order the ring and setting as well if i like the diamond. what do you think?
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:05:14 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:14:44 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	there is no way to formulate an opinion. Is it really an E. Is it really an Si2? How does it look? Can you see the inclusions? What is the table? What is the crown info? What is the girdle....X Thin? There is no way to tell if it's a good price without that info. There is SO much more than color and clarity. They are really secondary. ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:14:44 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:27:59 PM
RockDoc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,509 Last Post: 6/17/2007 Member Since: 8/16/2000	Dear D song. Analysis of a diamond cannot be done by guessing at the numbers. The stone needs to be tested. If you have questions- give me a call. The Brilliance Scope helps a lot too. 561-392-4054 Bill Rockdoc Bill Leiberum 1948-2007 Thanks for everything and Rest In Peace,Bill.
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:27:59 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:31:21 PM
RockDoc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,509 Last Post: 6/17/2007 Member Since: 8/16/2000	A new cut is becoming available whic is far better than the average princess. Obviously a little more pricey, but well worth the difference. Bill Rockdoc Bill Leiberum 1948-2007 Thanks for everything and Rest In Peace,Bill.
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:31:21 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:35:26 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	the jubilee? I like it a lot...but it's even more expensive than a H&A...or at least that's what I hear....and if you can find a princess with a great depth, than the size diff (considering the pointed corners) isn't that great.... ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:35:26 PM

P: 5/12/2004 12:37:33 PM
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004	Not to go off on a tanget....Roc Doc- I have a quick questions....how accurate do you think the BScope is....can there be "false" positive results (assuming it is used correctly- are there characteristics of a stone (a princess, for ex) that can cause some "false" great results that will never be apparant to the eye?) If that makes any sense? ______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me.
Posted: 5/12/2004 12:37:33 PM

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