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 How's this diamond I recently bought in Singapore?

P:  2/15/2002 5:27:28 AM  
hindhede
hindhede

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Dear All

Greetings from Singapore!

I recently bought a 0.59 ct F VS1 diamond from a reputable jeweller in Singapore for approximately US$1,900. The full details are as follows:

GIA certified
Round Brilliant Cut
5.44-5.51 X 3.27 mm
Depth = 59.7%
Table = 58%
Girdle = Very Thin to Slightly Thick, Faceted
Culet = None
Polish = Very Good
Symmetry = Very Good
Characteristics = Crystal, Needle
Flourescence = Faint
Comments = None

Using the ideal scope, the diamond looks very nearly 100% bright pink.

Would anyone like to comment on whether I bought this at a good price? I'm very tempted to go back to the same shop for more.


Posted:  2/15/2002 5:27:28 AM

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P: 2/15/2002 6:38:48 AM
Pricescope
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Yes, price sounds very reasonable. The fact that you selected it using Ideal-Scope is quite remarkable

Have you had a chance to check several stones with ideal-scope?



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Posted:  2/15/2002 6:38:48 AM
P: 2/16/2002 10:25:08 PM
hindhede
hindhede

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Dear Leonid

Yes, as a matter of fact, I spent about 40 minutes in the shop looking at a variety of diamonds using the Ideal Scope. The only diamond that was nearly 100% pink all over was the one I ended up buying.

The shop manager must have thought that I was nuts! He had never even heard of the ideal scope, and so I had to "educate" him on its use. I had to keep reminding him that I was testing for brilliance, not clarity.

He even brought out the DeBeers Millenium Diamond (just for kicks as I could not afford it) so that he and I could look at it through the ideal scope. Guess what? Even the Millenium diamond leaked to a certain degree.

Posted:  2/16/2002 10:25:08 PM
P: 2/17/2002 5:06:11 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
Garry H (Cut Nut)

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Is this what it looks like?

It is hard to model it exactly without the crown and pavilion angles, but with those % proportions it is likely to be a very nice stone.
 

 

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

HCA and Ideal-scope developer

http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  2/17/2002 5:06:11 AM
P: 2/17/2002 9:22:18 AM
hindhede
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The one I bought looks like a cross between the illustrations for Questions 7 and 10 in the "Test Your Skills" section of the ideal scope website.(www.pricescope.com/idealscope_test.asp)

It has the same uniform pinkish hue as in the illustration for Question 10. It has also two small white spots nearer the circumference as seen in the illustration for Question 7. (Could this be due to the inclusions?)

The diamond has been set on a ring which my fiancee is now wearing. She has since received dozens of compliments from her family and friends, specifically on the diamond's brilliance.

Little did I imagine that my US$20 investment on the ideal scope could yield such benefits!

Posted:  2/17/2002 9:22:18 AM
P: 2/20/2002 10:49:23 AM
hfc
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Hi,
Your diamond sounds beautiful. Which shop was it from? The price you paid seems very reasonable. I've seen smaller diamonds (<0.59 carats) which cost much more. I'll like to know where one can find such diamonds in Singapore.

Posted:  2/20/2002 10:49:23 AM
P: 2/21/2002 6:32:01 AM
hindhede
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Are you from Singapore? I got mine from Tiara Collections (specifically their branch at Woodlands). They have several branches at various locations in Singapore.

Posted:  2/21/2002 6:32:01 AM
P: 2/21/2002 10:42:37 AM
hfc
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Yes.

I've never gone to Tiara before. Usually go to Sookee or Aspial. Are the salespeople there pushy? I know the sales staff at the other places like to "talk down" on their competitors products.

Posted:  2/21/2002 10:42:37 AM
P: 4/2/2002 7:10:41 PM
oriental
oriental

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Hey, I'm from Singapore too. How and where can I buy the ideal scope?

Posted:  4/2/2002 7:10:41 PM
P: 4/2/2002 8:22:59 PM
Pricescope
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You can order it online from www.ideal-scope.com and it'll be shipped to you from Australia.



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Posted:  4/2/2002 8:22:59 PM
P: 4/5/2002 7:37:50 AM
muffy
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Hinhede, have you also visited Diamond Industries on Harper Road in Singapore, before deciding to buy a diamond from Tiara? Do you think it's a reputable store?

Posted:  4/5/2002 7:37:50 AM
P: 11/16/2002 9:41:38 AM
fajar
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Taka is one place you might like to visit. They have several shops in Singapore. The one in the city which is easily reachable is at People's Park Centre or Complex. Their price is about 30% cheaper than most other shopping centres.

http://www.takajewellery.com.sg/

Posted:  11/16/2002 9:41:38 AM
P: 11/16/2002 9:48:01 AM
fajar
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About Diamond Industries


It depends on the quality of the diamond you wish to buy. The shop stocks mainly cheap diamonds, if you want quality, you need to ask to examine the ones that comes with the certificates. I guess the pricing would be competitive, when compared with the so called reputable ones in the city.

Most jewellers in Singapore will quote you roughly the same price, given the same quality of diamond. If you want really good stones, you need to get it from shops that only sell mainly unset gem stones. These are the ones that have "runners" running for them. These are usually the Indian traders. You find some of these little shops in Peoples' Park centre (North Bridge Road) or in Lucky Plaza, at Orchard Road.


Posted:  11/16/2002 9:48:01 AM
P: 11/16/2002 10:42:00 AM
fajar
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I am surprised that Americans buy such huge diamonds for engagement rings. The Singapore girls mostly buy tiny diamonds. We can't afford that kind of prize. Most of us get diamonds sizes of 0.25 to 0.50 (half a carat) and that's considered very generous of boyfriends and husbands. In fact for everyday wear, we get ourselves tiny diamonds of 10 to 25 pointers.


Top of the range 1 carat diamonds of between F and G colour do not cost more that US $5,000, here in Singapore.

An example of a tiny (by American Standard) diamond is as follows:

GIA Cert
weight 0.32
Measurements 4.47-4.51 * 2.64mm
weight 0.32
depth 58.8%
table 63%
Girdle thin to medium
culet : none
polish: good
symmetry : good
clarity : VS2
colour: D
Fluorescence: none
comments none

Prize: $580

This one is from Taka, Singapore

Posted:  11/16/2002 10:42:00 AM
P: 11/18/2002 7:24:10 AM
glamrock
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Well hello,

I need to trade in my diamond ring. Do you know a reputable shop in Singapore where I can do this?
Thanks in advance

Posted:  11/18/2002 7:24:10 AM
P: 2/10/2003 6:29:05 PM
flowerpower
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Go to Aspial at Citilink Mall and ask to speak to a chap called Andra - I think they do trade-ins. Good luck!

Posted:  2/10/2003 6:29:05 PM
P: 5/20/2003 8:42:57 AM
theo
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Hi! I'm new to this forum (and diamonds and recently bought a 0.40 ct E VVS1 diamond for approximately US$1,450.

GIA certified
Round Brilliant
4.74-4.76 x 2.9 mm
Depth = 61.1%
Table = 59%
Girdle = Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted
Culet = None
Polish = Good
Symmetry = Very Good
Characteristics = Feather
Flourescence = None
Comments = None

Is the price acceptable for a stone like this?

Posted:  5/20/2003 8:42:57 AM
P: 5/20/2003 7:31:47 PM
Richard Sherwood
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Hi Theo. Welcome to the forum.

Although the crown-pavilion angle-height information is missing from your stats, in all likelihood the diamond is an AGA Cut Class 2A or 2B cut, which I would translate in laymen's terms as a "very good (2A)" or "very good to good (2B)" cut.

As a Cut Class 2 stone, the price you paid would be an excellent one.

Congratulations.

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  5/20/2003 7:31:47 PM
P: 5/20/2003 7:56:20 PM
yeewl
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hi, I bought this from taka last october at taka bugis when they had to clear the stocks.
Round brilliant cut

Measurements: 5.95 x 6.02 x 3.72 mm
Weight: 0.82
Depth: 62.2%
Table: 59%
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted
Culet: None
Polish: Good
Symmetry: Good
Clarity: VS2
Characteristic: Feather, crystel
Color: E
Fluorescence: None
Comments: None
US$2700 (S$4780)*

I just came back from Mel. Did go and visit precious metals at canterbury, hoping to garry.. but i was told he went out for lunch... nice shop you have garry

Posted:  5/20/2003 7:56:20 PM
P: 1/6/2004 11:21:17 AM
tjwm207
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hi hindhede

i also made an order for the idealscope. Am also residing in singapore. Now waiting patiently for it to arrive.

how long did it take for you to receive it?

Posted:  1/6/2004 11:21:17 AM
P: 1/6/2004 12:24:07 PM
tomatoe
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tjwm, i doubt that hindhede is still on this forum, this thread was started 2 years ago. y dont u check directly with cut nut about shipping time to singappore

Posted:  1/6/2004 12:24:07 PM
P: 1/7/2004 8:31:37 PM
tjwm207
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heh... its alrite now.

i just received it yesterday. could be delayed abit due to the xmas and new year holidays.

cheers.

Posted:  1/7/2004 8:31:37 PM

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