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J color??????????????? |
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| P: 4/25/2004 7:59:14 AM | |
scoozi Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 4/27/2004 Member Since: 4/25/2004 |
Hi all, I am cosidering to but a 3ct. round diamond, VS2, ideal cut ...however, it is a J color. Any opinions on this stone. Will it loke really yellow if mounted on white gold or platinum. I'm really confused, some people say a J color looks pretty much white while others say it looks kinda yellow. any help would be truly appreciated.
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| Posted: 4/25/2004 7:59:14 AM | |
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| P: 4/25/2004 9:16:19 AM | |
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003 |
Only trust YOUR eyes. The most of the people here will tell you to buy H-SI1, but I prefer J-VS1. Look at a lot of diamonds before buying. Stephan |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 9:16:19 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 9:32:47 AM | |
alexah Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,032 Last Post: 2/16/2008 Member Since: 2/14/2004 |
I'm with Stephen - I love the *personality* of a well-cut J. Everyone sees colors differently. I rarely see any yellow-ish tint at all to my J colored stone (and it's a fancy shape - well-cut RBs do face up whiter than fancy shapes). I/J's are more interesting & pleasing to my eye than the higher colors, but that's just me  . Others have said that they can see color beginning at H or above. And they don't happen to like the way it looks... Your best bet would be to go look at the stone in a variety of lights & see if it's the perfect stone for you.  _______________________________________ |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 9:32:47 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 10:58:16 AM | |
moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
I'm one of those people stephan! .... I actually won't go lower than a G (although an H jubilee might sound good too!).... b/c I can immediately see yellow and it drives my crazy.... I want my ice white!!! BUT, that said, different people can see different tints in a stone.... so the answer is- look at a J....bring it outside also..... and see what you think! It is true that a well cut stone will look much whiter face up...
______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 10:58:16 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 11:15:11 AM | |
eyesoftexas Cut Rock Total Posts: 141 Last Post: 10/23/2004 Member Since: 2/28/2004 |
I have a diamond that is J in color set in an all platinum setting and it looks very white. The only way I can tell is if closely compare side by side with my other diamonds (like G in color) and then it looks every so slightly warm. It never really looks "yellow" and for the money I think it is a great deal. Only negative thing I have heard is that as you increase in carat size the colors come through more (but again I think it has to be slight).
EofT |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 11:15:11 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 11:30:42 AM | |
Lions, Tigers & Bears Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,107 Last Post: 9/12/2005 Member Since: 10/18/2003 |
A J can be amazing--the quality of the cut has a lot to do with it. I have earrings with 4 well-cut .25 ct J RBs and they are fireballs with no yellow. Look at the stone in different lighting and decide if YOU are happy with it.
_____________________________________________ Don't breed or buy when homeless pets continue to die. |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 11:30:42 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 12:08:48 PM | |
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rothko Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 5/11/2004 Member Since: 4/15/2004 |
I just bought a 1.3 K VS2 from superbcert (its being set right now, I'll write more about it when I get the ring back). Like you, I had many many reservations about buying a low colored stone. When I first got it, I had no idea it was colored. Then, I compared it witht the D/E/F colored CZ I got with my idealscope and it became obvious that it is slightly tinted. However, face up, with good light (sunlight, halogen, etc) its almost as white as the CZ because it has so much brilliance! I don't think she'll be able to tell its a K unless I put a much whiter stone right next to it.
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| Posted: 4/25/2004 12:08:48 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 12:14:57 PM | |
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bigmike11559 Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 4/25/2004 Member Since: 4/25/2004 |
In general, a J color stone does not set well in white gold or platinum. It also depends on the lab that gave it that grading (some labs are stricter than others).
Bigmike |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 12:14:57 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 1:50:48 PM | |
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scoozi Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 4/27/2004 Member Since: 4/25/2004 |
I have seen a picture of K diamond mounted in one of the posts and it looked AMAZINGLY white. I know it depends how sensitive each person is to color but then again it brilliant. I'm hoping that with an ideal cut and the diamond being round I can step down to the J color and still have it look white. Good luck rothko with your ring.
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| Posted: 4/25/2004 1:50:48 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 4:08:47 PM | |
Wink Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,032 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 5/4/2001 |
Many of my clients prefer the warmer colored stones, many prefer the absolute absence of color. We can not answer your question without seeing the stones. I sold one certificated (GIA) H color that I put on the sales receipt that I felt it was a J color. I have sold K colored stones that faced whiter than that one. As was so correctly stated above, look at the stone, and let your eyes, and your heart tell you if it is the right stone or not. Wink Wink Jones |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 4:08:47 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 5:43:44 PM | |
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004 |
Hey there: I was just out yesterday looking for myself--at the very kind of stones you are inquiring about. I saw ranges of stones from F-K color, 2.5-4.05CTW solitares. All very well made stones, and I liked them all. What the vendor suggested to me was to do the "dirt test" on the stones (put your fingers all over the stone to get it "dirty") and see THEN how it faces up in the light and also under the table. This is where one may notice a difference in colors, where the stone might appear darker or oiler than might appear a F color with the same kind of "dirt" on it. From this I acertained that a stone of "less white" color, might tolerate the everyday wear and dirt--in that it could potentially look dirtier more often. Anyway, I certainly did the "dirt" test with all the color of stones, and I really couldn't see major oily appearances--but my eye is not as trained as some I suppose. However, I certainly could see the difference B/T a F and K--yet it didn't bother me as the cuts were so fine. Hope this makes sense. slb "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off". |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 5:43:44 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 5:45:27 PM | |
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scoozi Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 4/27/2004 Member Since: 4/25/2004 |
I saw the diamond loose and looked pretty much white, just hint of yellow in some angles. If it's true that when mounted it will look whiter that would be AMAZING!!! is there a big difference in the color of a diamond after it has been mounted?
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| Posted: 4/25/2004 5:45:27 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 5:46:51 PM | |
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flubber Cut Rock Total Posts: 224 Last Post: 7/28/2007 Member Since: 10/13/2003 |
I just bought a J-colored stone, it's an AGS graded H&A. I feel confident that it'll face up white and that's the important thing to me. I think in a super ideal cut diamond, a J color is a great value. To me, it was either get a very well cut I color, or get a super ideal cut J color -- of course, I chose the latter.
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| Posted: 4/25/2004 5:46:51 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2004 11:42:34 PM | |
pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
I have a gorgeous 1.25 carat J color diamond set in platinum. It's not yellow at all. But, my diamond was cut from steely blue color hue rough. Diamond rough comes in all sorts of colors. Yellow and brown are the most common, but there is a whole range of colors. J is not very tinted looking thru the pavillion. If the diamond is well cut, face up, a J will appear white and bright almost all the time. You have to remember, the diamond will be complimented by skin tones as well. Ditto's to the comments that you should look at well cut, lower color diamonds to decide if J will work for you. If J color does, you will get big bang for your buck. J color diamonds represent great value to maximize your budget and/or get a larger diamond.
Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 4/25/2004 11:42:34 PM | |
| P: 4/26/2004 8:27:01 PM | |
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aliciamt7 Rough Rock Total Posts: 62 Last Post: 1/2/2008 Member Since: 2/18/2003 |
Hi! I have a J colored center stone that faces up very white (to me, anyway, and I absolutely love it!) but the true test will be when you see it for yourself. Here's a pic of my J stone which is set in white gold in the sunlight--on cloudy days, it's even whiter! Good luck!
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| Posted: 4/26/2004 8:27:01 PM | |
| P: 4/27/2004 9:52:26 AM | |
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scoozi Rough Rock Total Posts: 4 Last Post: 4/27/2004 Member Since: 4/25/2004 |
it looks BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!..AND REALLY WHITE!!, did u notice any difference in its color before and after mounting? thanks a lot for sharing
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| Posted: 4/27/2004 9:52:26 AM | |
| P: 4/27/2004 10:22:49 AM | |
Basset Hound Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 3/27/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2004 |
Nothing wrong with a J color. All diamonds appear darker once they are set up. |
| Posted: 4/27/2004 10:22:49 AM | |
| P: 4/27/2004 8:41:15 PM | |
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aliciamt7 Rough Rock Total Posts: 62 Last Post: 1/2/2008 Member Since: 2/18/2003 |
scoozi, I didn't see the stone unmounted since my fiance surprised me with the ring and the proposal! But he did see it unmounted, and the jeweler let him take the stone outside the store into real light so he could make sure it was white enough for his eyes and to make sure it wasn't all the store lighting affecting the color and sparkle! There are very few times when I notice the hint of color, and I still love it! It will really depend on how much you notice, and only your eyes will be the best judge of that! Good luck with everything, and make sure to post your ring when it's finally done!! Alicia
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| Posted: 4/27/2004 8:41:15 PM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 4:52:19 AM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
I think you could see for yourself what this stone will look like mounted - just ask the jeweler to show you - it should be possible to find some unfinished mounting in the whole store to do the trick. One can just place the stone between those prongs without tightening the - right? And then there are stone holders that could simmulate the same. All you need is some white metal 'prongs' around the stone to get an idea. I don't think the mounting would make the worst come out, quite on the contrary. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 4/28/2004 4:52:19 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 8:47:28 AM | |
Iceman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,374 Last Post: 1/24/2008 Member Since: 8/26/2000 |
Graded properly a "J" graded diamond will face up white. I’ve seen this consistent in GIA graded diamonds. Fluorescence will give it a touch of white also
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| Posted: 4/28/2004 8:47:28 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 8:53:29 AM | |
diamondsman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 625 Last Post: 11/12/2009 Member Since: 11/11/2002 |
If you are mounting it in yellow gold than J color would look great,But... if you are mounting it in white metal,I recommend not going below an H-I color,as many of the J colors would have a tinge of yellow when mounted in white metals.look for an I vs2 or an H si1 you'll should not see any hint of yellow.
Diamondsman |
| Posted: 4/28/2004 8:53:29 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 9:04:34 AM | |
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Iceman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,374 Last Post: 1/24/2008 Member Since: 8/26/2000 |
Set the diamond in a white gold head no matter what metal you place it in. Do yourself a favor and go to a Jewelry store and ask to see a GIA graded diamond, not EGL or IGI lab reports; but GIA graded diamonds , look at them H , I, J face up (that is how you are going to see them in the real world we live in) You will not see a difference! A trained eye looking against white paper on the diamonds side, yes! But we live in the real world, that luxury does not exist when the ring is mounted . Its your money, take all the advice you get here and apply it to the real world and see what works for you Enjoy what you have learned.
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| Posted: 4/28/2004 9:04:34 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 9:06:52 AM | |
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Iceman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,374 Last Post: 1/24/2008 Member Since: 8/26/2000 |
Maybe Im wrong? Or my stock is undergraded ? or maybe Im right ? Time to go to work
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| Posted: 4/28/2004 9:06:52 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 9:29:05 AM | |
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pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
---------------- Here's my J color diamond set in platinum. Where's the yellow???  Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 4/28/2004 9:29:05 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 9:30:31 AM | |
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pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
And another pic that I shot. Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 4/28/2004 9:30:31 AM | |
| P: 4/28/2004 9:50:44 AM | |
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moremoremore Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,825 Last Post: 2/9/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2004 |
I just want to add that it will depend on what YOU see! Everyone is different. I, personally, can spot a J over an H immediately....set or unset....But that said, I have "color" issues! LOL.... If you find a J you love, go for it! 
______________________________ Stewart says: I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggon'it, people like me. |
| Posted: 4/28/2004 9:50:44 AM | |
| P: 6/16/2004 3:15:14 PM | |
Kamuelamom Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,808 Last Post: 10/20/2006 Member Since: 4/18/2003 |
Scoozi, I'm just catching up on all the threads here. What was the verdict on your decision? |
| Posted: 6/16/2004 3:15:14 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2004 3:59:30 PM | |
researcher Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,440 Last Post: 5/26/2008 Member Since: 4/27/2004 |
I'm interested to know as well! I bought an "I" stone, and even though I'm sensitive to color (I think my friend's "G" looks yellow) my stone faces up unbelievably white (and has no fluorescence)! At any rate, I'd love to know how your "J" turned out!!!
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| Posted: 6/16/2004 3:59:30 PM | |
| P: 6/16/2004 7:46:35 PM | |
diamonddoll Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 7/19/2004 Member Since: 6/8/2004 |
PQ your ring looks fantastic. I too have seen great J color diamonds that look really white. I'm thinking of getting one myself so I can put more money into the size of the daimond.
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| Posted: 6/16/2004 7:46:35 PM | |
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