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P:  4/23/2004 9:33:55 PM  
Dancing Fire
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I looked at a Lazar couple weeks ago. The salesman showed me a 1.25 E SI2 for $8000 that really lit up the room and I was impressed. Strange thing about LK is that their PAV degree for an ideal cut is 42.2-42.8 where other modern day ideal cut is in the range of 40.7-41 degree. On the other hand, he had some other ones in his showcase that looked dead. I have also seen couple of hearts on fire which didn't have very much fire. They want lots of money for it. So I guess it all depends on each individual stone; no matter the brand. Every brand claim they are the best cut in the world. I also have seen 8*s, their 8 arrows are definitely broader compared to other ideal cuts and you can tell with a naked eye.
it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted:  4/23/2004 9:33:55 PM

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P: 7/22/2004 9:54:59 PM
Dancing Fire
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On 4/23/2004 9:33:55 PM vtigger86 wrote:

I looked at a Lazar couple weeks ago. The salesman showed me a 1.25 E SI2 for $8000 that really lit up the room and I was impressed. Strange thing about LK is that their PAV degree for an ideal cut is 42.2-42.8 where other modern day ideal cut is in the range of 40.7-41 degree. On the other hand, he had some other ones in his showcase that looked dead. I have also seen couple of hearts on fire which didn't have very much fire. They want lots of money for it. So I guess it all depends on each individual stone; no matter the brand. Every brand claim they are the best cut in the world. I also have seen 8*s, their 8 arrows are definitely broader compared to other ideal cuts and you can tell with a naked eye. ----------------


after three months, went back to the store and wanted to check out this E SI2 stone under the scope, but the salesman said it was sold. i probably wouldn't have paid $8000 for it anyway.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  7/22/2004 9:54:59 PM
P: 7/22/2004 10:26:22 PM
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what was your impression of the overall fire and brilliance of the 8*? (what about vs. these other competitors?) (vs. a good HCA~1 stone?)

Posted:  7/22/2004 10:26:22 PM
P: 7/22/2004 11:21:06 PM
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On 4/23/2004 9:33:55 PM vtigger86 wrote:

...Strange thing about LK is that their PAV degree for an ideal cut is 42.2-42.8 where other modern day ideal cut is in the range of 40.7-41 degree... ----------------



vtigger- I think the 42.2-42.8 refers to a percentage? I know this was discussed recently on another thread, but can't remember what the conclusion was...

quaeritur

Posted:  7/22/2004 11:21:06 PM
P: 7/22/2004 11:30:53 PM
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On 7/22/2004 11:21:06 PM quaeritur wrote:

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On 4/23/2004 9:33:55 PM vtigger86 wrote:

...Strange thing about LK is that their PAV degree for an ideal cut is 42.2-42.8 where other modern day ideal cut is in the range of 40.7-41 degree... ----------------



vtigger- I think the 42.2-42.8 refers to a percentage? I know this was discussed recently on another thread, but can't remember what the conclusion was...----------------


Quaeritur
yes, i think we came to a conclusion that their brochure must be a misprint.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  7/22/2004 11:30:53 PM
P: 7/22/2004 11:36:37 PM
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On 7/22/2004 10:26:22 PM wanderlost wrote:

what was your impression of the overall fire and brilliance of the 8*? (what about vs. these other competitors?) (vs. a good HCA~1 stone?)----------------


wanderlost
i think wink can give us a better answer since he deal in both of this type of stones.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  7/22/2004 11:36:37 PM
P: 7/23/2004 12:35:58 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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two typo's

43.8%
not 42.8%

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

HCA and Ideal-scope developer

http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  7/23/2004 12:35:58 AM

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