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Laser inscribed with Cert #, Good or Bad? |
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| P: 4/22/2004 5:46:39 PM | |
Cinemafreak Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 5/24/2004 Member Since: 4/19/2004 |
I have seen some diamonds with the cert serial number inscribed on the girdle. Is this a bad thing? Can it cause damage, weak spots or loss of performance? Or is it a good thing to protect your diamond? Thanks!
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| Posted: 4/22/2004 5:46:39 PM | |
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| P: 4/22/2004 5:49:20 PM | |
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flubber Cut Rock Total Posts: 224 Last Post: 7/28/2007 Member Since: 10/13/2003 |
I like it becuase then you can always identify your diamond under magnification so as to avoid having your stone swapped without your knowing it. I doubt it would cause any type of problem as for the integrity of the diamond, or else they wouldn't do it.
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| Posted: 4/22/2004 5:49:20 PM | |
| P: 4/22/2004 6:19:12 PM | |
Iceman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,374 Last Post: 1/24/2008 Member Since: 8/26/2000 |
With new technology the inscription is less then half the thickness of your hair deep into the side of the girdle. The inscription is not fool proof; it can be buffed off (so to speak). Your arrangements of internal inclusions are always going to be the same. Get to know them.
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| Posted: 4/22/2004 6:19:12 PM | |
| P: 4/22/2004 7:57:40 PM | |
Judi W Cut Rock Total Posts: 177 Last Post: 1/15/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004 |
Inscription on the girdle is not a bad thing....and seems to be gaining popularity, but I agree that getting to know your inclusions will be the ultimate security. After all, no two diamonds in the world are exactly the same!
Judi W. |
| Posted: 4/22/2004 7:57:40 PM | |
| P: 4/26/2004 10:05:58 AM | |
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harlowqueen Rough Rock Total Posts: 21 Last Post: 5/20/2004 Member Since: 1/10/2004 |
Cinemafreak: My fiance recently purchased my ering from Harry Winston, who has been known to laser inscribe all of their diamonds with the HW logo as well as with the serial number of the diamond. When my fiance found out that my diamond was not laser inscribed he asked the sales person about it and the salesperson told him that it is no longer Harry Winston's policy to laser inscribe any diamond because GIA is starting to few the inscriptions as flaws in the diamond. He said that if we really wanted it laser inscribed they would do it, but they couldn't be responsible for how the value of the stone might be affected by any subsequent GIA appraisers. I don't know if this is true or just a gimic...but I thought I would share the info. Harlowqueen
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| Posted: 4/26/2004 10:05:58 AM | |
| P: 4/26/2004 5:01:33 PM | |
RoyalAsscher Rough Rock Total Posts: 37 Last Post: 3/14/2005 Member Since: 2/27/2004 |
good subject this is very interesting i can definetly say that this is just a gimic because my company laser inscribes also all the diamonds all royal asscher cuts are lasre inscribed and all of them have a GIA cert the GIA will definetly not tkae the laser inscription in to its clarity grading system the only thing is that the cert will specify the inscription best regards mike asscher G.G. 5th generation of the Asscher family
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| Posted: 4/26/2004 5:01:33 PM | |
| P: 4/26/2004 5:54:51 PM | |
Rank Amateur Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,547 Last Post: 5/5/2009 Member Since: 2/26/2003 |
Maybe you can't get a FL grade with the laser inscription? Maybe one of the pros will set us straight here. I see the inscription as neither here nor there. I could incribe "Rank Amateur's Assher" on a diamond and the GIA would report it as such in the notes, right? Even if the stone were a round. Jonathan carries lots of stones which have "H&A" inscribed on the girdle, but just because someone inscribed it doesn't make it a true H&A. Maybe I should buy some J SI2s and have "D FL" inscribed on them. 
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| Posted: 4/26/2004 5:54:51 PM | |
| P: 4/26/2004 5:57:11 PM | |
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wallace Cut Rock Total Posts: 282 Last Post: 5/1/2004 Member Since: 3/11/2004 |
Hi - I am with the Asscher point of view on this - I think what it comes down to (after having to give this subject lots of thought myself) whether or not you are buying a patented, trademarked, and possibly copyrighted diamond CUT. THe issue is less about security (mapping is excellent) than preserving the premium price you paid to get an exlusive cut. I can prove that that stone was "legitimately" cut by the only people who are allowed to produce that cut. If I get my ring worked on, I know 100% that my stone has not been replaced by an equally good stone, generically cut. Mapping is less specific for this type of issue than it is for identifying your stone in a basic way especially as you get in to the VS-IF range. Also, I have extra assurance with my insurance company that the stone will be replaced according to the details of my purchase. If I lose an Elara stone it will have to be replaced or re-imbursed at the value of an Elara stamped stone - rather than the insurance company saving 40% and replacing my stone with a Flanders Brilliant which has a different reatail price. (This case is a little unusual as the Elara stones are cut by Flanders Brilliant in the first place - so the stone would be the same, actually - but would be priced differently). Another example, I buy a Royal Asscher and lose it, insurance may try to replace it with an asscher cut, never mind the different number of facets - tell me an insurance company who wouldn't try! THey may consider this to be an acceptable replacement and if I refuse, they will only pay out the current market value for the asscher cut! So, laser inscription is extra protection for me. THat said, the issue of Flawless stone standards changing becuase the independant labs will count a laser inscription as an external flaw - I think this is an whole new level of argument since many of us are not buying flawless stones - in which case we'd be covered at Lloyd's! So, it seems up to the labs whether it advantageous for them to make this determination and if they have enough power to influence diamond prices this way.... Any thoughts? "Compassion, in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind". Alb. Schweitzer |
| Posted: 4/26/2004 5:57:11 PM | |
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