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P: 2/7/2002 3:37:43 PM
rtseng Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 3/24/2003 Member Since: 2/7/2002	We have been shopping for the perfect diamond for some time now. Currently, a store approaced us with a GIA diamond that is: 1.03 in weight, F color, VS2 clarity. The asking price is about Canadian $9,300-$9,400 (depending on the exchange rate). I've made an appointment to see him next week. Can some one let me know if this is a good price and how much should we negotiate? In additon, is it safe to buy loose diamonds from a "wholesale deal" who does not have a store (maybe an office but I doubt that too). What are things to watch out?? Thank you very much for your help. rtseng
Posted: 2/7/2002 3:37:43 PM

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P: 2/7/2002 4:55:54 PM
Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000	Hi Rtseng, There are other factors affecting the price: proportions, polish, symmetry, fluorescence... Price can vary from US $5k to $7.5k because of this (CAD $8k-12k). Get more information about the stone from its certificate and compare the prices doing search from the front page (apple to apple). It would be good also to get crown and pavilion angles for the stone. They are not shown in GIA report but you can ask your vendor to find them for you from Sarin measurements. Or use ideal-scope to chek the cut of your diamond. When you'll get all this info and find out how much similar diamonds cost in the web, you'll see whether you have a room for negotiation. As for whether it is safe, yes it is if a dealer has legitimate business, has good reputation and trustworthy credentials. If you unsure, don't hesitate to inquire about it. Buy only if you feel comfortable. But most important: educate yourself, read tutorial and other articles on this site and search for more info in the web. Check this topic for more useful hints: B&M vs E-tailer This article can also be useful: Buy safely online Pricescope
Posted: 2/7/2002 4:55:54 PM

P: 2/8/2002 8:36:03 AM
rtseng Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 3/24/2003 Member Since: 2/7/2002	thanks leonid. just one more question, how does the AGIS' cut grading correspond to GIS's? for example, I think the diamond is a "good cut". Would that be 2A-2B by GIS? thanks again. rtseng
Posted: 2/8/2002 8:36:03 AM

P: 2/8/2002 8:50:10 AM
Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000	---------------- On 2/8/2002 8:36:03 AM thanks leonid. just one more question, how does the AGIS' cut grading correspond to GIS's? for example, I think the diamond is a "good cut". Would that be 2A-2B by GIS? thanks again. ---------------- I'm affraid there is a confusion... What are AGIS and GIS? Do you mean AGS and GIA? GIA doesn't have cut grading system. There is David Atlas, AGA, cut grading system that has 1A,B-2A,B etc grades. By the way, what is the diamond shape you're looking for? I assumed it was round... Pricescope
Posted: 2/8/2002 8:50:10 AM

P: 2/8/2002 9:03:33 AM
rtseng Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 3/24/2003 Member Since: 2/7/2002	sorry, it was a typo . i meant AGA. i took a look of your "price stat" and was just wondering which pricing on cut i should use . as you mentioned, GIA does not have a grading sysem on cut (they do tell you if it's an ideal, excellent..etc, don't they?)... and yes, i am looking for a round diamond. thanks for your help!! rtseng
Posted: 2/8/2002 9:03:33 AM

P: 2/8/2002 9:21:55 AM
Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000	Rtseng, I personaly never use the price stats :) You'll get much better picture if just compare the prices for the similar diamonds (including cut and finish). AGA 1A class is very strict and very close to Tolkowsky proportions. AGS 0 class is quite broad and experts do not recommend steep/deep AGS0 diamonds (see tutorial). If you'd get crown and pavilion angles for your diamond you'll be able to use Holloway Cut Adviser to quickly check the cut. Pricescope
Posted: 2/8/2002 9:21:55 AM

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