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 Brilliant Rose vs Hearts of Fire

P:  2/6/2002 11:09:02 AM  
hfc
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A salesperson told me that a Brilliant Rose is a modified diamond and therefore cannot be compared to the Hearts of Fire(which he is selling). He also mentioned that the Brilliant Rose lacks "fire" and thus is not as pretty than the HOF. Can anyone comment on this?

 


Posted:  2/6/2002 11:09:02 AM

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P: 2/6/2002 11:26:14 AM
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Ideally you have to compare both with your own eyes and make your own decision :)

Some food for your thoughts can be found in the previous discussions:
Hearts-On-Fire or Brilliant Rose ???
The Leo Diamond
Bought a Brilliant Rose diamond

If you'll like a look of HoF, you might also consider other H&A brands such as EightStar, A Cut Above, and SuperbCert. They all consistently cut for ideal proportions and symmetry.



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Posted:  2/6/2002 11:26:14 AM
P: 2/6/2002 11:40:34 AM
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Thanks. I guess it's pretty much a personal thing. However, are modified diamonds (in this case, the Brilliant Rose) cheaper than the HOF? Or is there a standard pricing for all round stones? I also heard from the aforementioned salesperson that diamond prices will increase from March 2002 onwards. Is that true or is he just trying to convince me to plonk my money down now?

Posted:  2/6/2002 11:40:34 AM
P: 2/6/2002 1:48:17 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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Do your reading and your own looking and then make YOUR decision.
BR is a nice stone - but all individual diamonds are different so there is no one standard.
A nice HOF is nicer than a not so nice etc etc

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  2/6/2002 1:48:17 PM
P: 2/6/2002 11:05:31 PM
jamesd
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HOF doesn't have a reputation for competitive pricing.

BR is a modified cut to increase weight retention, giving less light per carat, so the price had better reflect that unless you lie the appearance.

If you want to spend HOF money, take a look at an EightStar - the EightStar might well be less expensive. Worth looking at non-EightStar options like A Cut Above and SuperbCert and unbranded super-ideals as well.

Posted:  2/6/2002 11:05:31 PM
P: 2/7/2002 12:29:01 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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James I have seen very nice BR's and Leo's (same thing).
They are not cut for weight any more than any other stone - just an extra row of pav facets.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  2/7/2002 12:29:01 AM
P: 2/7/2002 7:15:36 PM
hfc
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Thanks for the info!

You're right about the HOF pricing. They are way higher than a comparative BR. Why should anyone want to pay for what is basically a 58-facet stone? For the branding?

Posted:  2/7/2002 7:15:36 PM
P: 2/7/2002 10:45:56 PM
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58 facet round diamond is still considered the most beautiful if cut correctly.

Extra 96 or even 144 don't add much to the beauty unless the stone is really large so extra facets enhance the scintillation.

But again it's a matter of personal taste.



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Posted:  2/7/2002 10:45:56 PM
P: 9/5/2002 10:52:13 AM
mclt79
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hi
i would go 4 the BR.it is very symmetrical thus giving better fire.
any ideal/perfect cut diamond can give u 8 hearts,meaning HOF is very common.i have personally seen ROMANCE diamonds or even a LAZARE.but what do i see?HOF!!
i would still go 4 BR

Posted:  9/5/2002 10:52:13 AM

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