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 Can anyone help with this price and certificate?

P:  4/7/2004 12:59:03 PM  
Loengard
Loengard

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Last Post: 12/16/2004
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Hi,

I've been 'lurking' around the board for some time and appreciate the fact that so many experts are gathering here.

Therefore, I thought I'd run a quote I got by you guys. I got this quote from an Antwerp diamond dealer.

Specifics of the diamond are:
- colour: G
- clarity: VS2
- carat size: 1.02c
- fluorescence: none
- proportion: very good
- finish: very good

The price offered is 4974 USD. Is this a good price?

Is it a good stone by the way? For 5819 USD I can get a 1.22 H VS2 diamond, with same specifics as above (so only the colour is different, H, and the carat size, 1.22). Would this be a better buy?

And finally, the diamond is accompanied by a certificate from the High Council of Diamonds Belgium (HRD). Is this a decent certificate?

Thanks so much for helping me out! I've been doing homework for a month now, I now more than the basics of the C's, but there's only so much a non-expert can do on his own. So thanks for the help,

Peter
Posted:  4/7/2004 12:59:03 PM

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P: 4/7/2004 1:10:59 PM
Nicrez
Nicrez

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From my initial search I have found that it seems to be a pretty good price!

I have found two 1.06ct stones, both G color, for about $6,600 (for the VS2), $6,840 (for the VS1), both IDEAL.

For both the clairty and color, as well as size, these seem to be too good to be true!!

On another site, I find a H&A ideal G, VS2 in 1.037 to be $7,800 or so. So barring your stone is cut all bizarre, it's a pretty darn good deal you got there!

If you can include angles and Sarin numbers, like the Pavillion angle, the crown angle, crown height, and culet %...it may be able to help us see how it's cut. Most people like to use the Halloway Cut Advisor as a nice tool to see how it can perform.

So far what a bargain!!!

"Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! "

Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.

Posted:  4/7/2004 1:10:59 PM
P: 4/7/2004 4:16:33 PM
Paul-Antwerp
Paul-Antwerp

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Peter,

On the info provided, there is no way to say whether it is a good, a decent deal, or a bargain.

The HRD-certificate is reliable for colour and clarity. Their grading on cut is useless since the VG-range on proportions is way too wide. A 'Good' finish-grade is a definite minus, since a 'Very Good' on finish does not even guarantee great polish and/or symmetry.

However, the HRD has crown and pavilion angles on its cert, along with other measurements, so you should be able to get that. This will teach us a lot more about the cut of this stone.

Live long,

Paul

Paul Slegers
Infinity Diamonds
www.CraftedByInfinity.com

Posted:  4/7/2004 4:16:33 PM
P: 4/9/2004 4:29:58 AM
robbe
robbe

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paul wrote
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However, the HRD has crown and pavilion angles on its cert...
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paul, they don't put the angles. only %.
robbe

Posted:  4/9/2004 4:29:58 AM
P: 4/9/2004 11:38:41 AM
Paul-Antwerp
Paul-Antwerp

Ideal Rock
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Last Post: 11/23/2009
Member Since: 9/3/2002
 
Sorry Robbe,

I was confused. You are right.

Paul

Paul Slegers
Infinity Diamonds
www.CraftedByInfinity.com

Posted:  4/9/2004 11:38:41 AM

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