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P: 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM
MATTMAN Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/6/2004 Member Since: 2/16/2004	I have a bit of a bone to pick. I spent a good 8 months worrying about getting the perfect ring for my girlfriend. I was concerned about all 4 c's and getting her something that she'd be sure to get compliments about. I finally found an .72 E colored diamond, had it set in platinum, and gave it to her a month ago. Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characteristics. She said quote, "I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty." Lesson learned. If she really loves you and it's given from the heart, than that's all that matters.
Posted: 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM

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P: 4/6/2004 9:04:55 PM
limey Cut Rock Total Posts: 264 Last Post: 7/14/2004 Member Since: 3/4/2004	Congrats ...ask her in a year or ten when her best friends have 2 ct dazzlers! I lucked out with my gf, but making it up for our 10th anniv!
Posted: 4/6/2004 9:04:55 PM

P: 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM
sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004	---------------- On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote: Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.' Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter. congrats on the engagement!
Posted: 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM

P: 4/6/2004 9:51:46 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	---------------- On 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM sumi wrote: ---------------- On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote: Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.' Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter. ---------------- Exactly! It's not the specs that matter, it's the end result of those specs. Frozen spit isn't nearly as pretty . Congratulations. Mattman!
Posted: 4/6/2004 9:51:46 PM

P: 4/6/2004 10:34:48 PM
MATTMAN Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/6/2004 Member Since: 2/16/2004	---------------- On 4/6/2004 9:51:46 PM lop wrote: ---------------- On 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM sumi wrote: ---------------- On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote: Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.' Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter. ---------------- Exactly! It's not the specs that matter, it's the end result of those specs. Frozen spit isn't nearly as pretty . True true true. How she likes the diamond is all that's important...not what's on some certificate. That's my point.
Posted: 4/6/2004 10:34:48 PM

P: 4/6/2004 10:52:22 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	good, good, good. As long as you really don't mean that all that work and attention you spent getting her what turned out to be a beautiful stone, doesn't matter! it does matter, and I'm sure she loves it because you did a great job (ie pretty stone), and you worked hard to make sure it was great!
Posted: 4/6/2004 10:52:22 PM

P: 4/6/2004 11:16:16 PM
MATTMAN Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/6/2004 Member Since: 2/16/2004	---------------- On 4/6/2004 10:52:22 PM lop wrote: good, good, good. As long as you really don't mean that all that work and attention you spent getting her what turned out to be a beautiful stone, doesn't matter! it does matter, and I'm sure she loves it because you did a great job (ie pretty stone), and you worked hard to make sure it was great! ---------------- Nope, all I meant is that a happy marriage is based on more than a beautiful diamond. I'm glad she liked the ring, and I wouldn't have put any less effort into getting her something spectacular. But when it's all said and done, the fact that she loves me and I love her is all that matters.
Posted: 4/6/2004 11:16:16 PM

P: 4/7/2004 2:30:29 AM
sparklyandsquare Rough Rock Total Posts: 37 Last Post: 4/28/2004 Member Since: 3/31/2004	Congrats! And it sounds like she probably won't care what her friends have in ten years either because she got you!
Posted: 4/7/2004 2:30:29 AM

P: 4/7/2004 10:30:23 AM
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004	Not everyone has the same priorities! I adore quality and gems, so for me that's a big thing. I didn't mind a smaller size, but a higher color. To me, this ring will be passed down, and I want to have something of quality to say this is Mommy's ring a ___ color, ____clarity. Just like someone telling me that so-and-so won some world series...I would yawn. My friend would probably cheer herself stupid. I helped my guy pick out the rock and TRUST ME, I am DAMNED PROUD of my stone, and even have a picture of it as a screensaver. Again, everyone has different priorities. So congrats to you and your wife-to-be, and may you both enjoy the hard work and effort you put into finding that lovely lovely stone!!! "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! " Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.
Posted: 4/7/2004 10:30:23 AM

P: 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM
limey Cut Rock Total Posts: 264 Last Post: 7/14/2004 Member Since: 3/4/2004	I want to clarify what I meant when I said "...ask her in a year or ten when her best friends have 2 ct dazzlers!" My wife has never asked for a trade up, never expected a trade up and sbsolutely loves her existing ring. We got engaged when I was in college in 1993, there was no PS back then, in fact the graphical web browser was not even mainstream! We got married ahead of my career, and perhaps younger than we probably would have because I am a foreigner. We then waited 4 years before having kids, kind of an after-the-fact engagement to make sure we weren't rushing etc. Over the past 10 years DeBeers has marketed diamonds very well and accordingly my wife's diamond is alot smaller than almost everyone we know, or other mom's that drop their kids off at school, other people's you see in stores etc.... and unfortunately it does represent a measure of ones success and standing. I perhaps feel it more so than my wife, she is very down to earth and doesn't really care what people think, especially snooty women. There was one comment made a few weeks ago that I got a kick out of, one of her best friends just got engaged for the third time, it will be her second marriage IF it pans out (!!). Each subsequent ring has been better/bigger and she is not only trading up rings but the men. In our case we have stuck the course, we have grown together, gone thru ups and downs, and she said that she has not had to trade up to get the husband she always hoped for. I am posting all this because I probably came across a bit harsh with my comment when I really meant it in jest. The persepctive I have now is one of, OK, my wife loves her ring, it means alot to her... and since I love her more now I am going to do something special for her for our 10th anniversary. I am incorporating the old pear in the design and hopefully it will all turn out beautifully and she will say.... "I don't care about all of that (statistic) stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty." cheers, and best of luck Andrew
Posted: 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM

P: 4/7/2004 11:11:55 AM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	---------------- On 4/6/2004 11:16:16 PM MATTMAN wrote: ---------------- Nope, all I meant is that a happy marriage is based on more than a beautiful diamond. I'm glad she liked the ring, and I wouldn't have put any less effort into getting her something spectacular. But when it's all said and done, the fact that she loves me and I love her is all that matters.---------------- Agreed. Sounds as if you are starting this next life step the right way. Congratulations!
Posted: 4/7/2004 11:11:55 AM

P: 4/7/2004 11:26:50 AM
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004	Everyone agrees that the material is never what is important. As a matter of fact, there are many times where we could spend a lot more on frivolous things, but we don't. Money is a commodity, not a substitute for emotions or relationships. However, how we use our money shows a little about who we are. If we donate to charities, if we spend on loved ones, if we hoard money. It all goes into deeper issues. Mattman, I am very glad your wife-to-be was happy with how pretty her stone is. She should be happy with the effort you put in, as it came to her out of love and a real effort to make things just perfect for her. But there will always be cases of people who favor to spend their money on one thing or another. I'd rather drive a crappier car than trade in my rock. BUT, I'd rather have my kids go to a better college than have my rock. If I can do both, then YAY!!! To each his own, and may your wife-to-be enjoy her lovely new rock and the love you two share!! "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! " Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.
Posted: 4/7/2004 11:26:50 AM

P: 4/7/2004 11:45:49 AM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	---------------- On 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM andr3wpd wrote: There was one comment made a few weeks ago that I got a kick out of, one of her best friends just got engaged for the third time, it will be her second marriage IF it pans out (!!). Each subsequent ring has been better/bigger and she is not only trading up rings but the men. - There is a case for going IF clarity. Are the men bigger & better as well? Yeah, we all know people like that. But, I have to say it's the person, not the diamond or ring. Though, the ring may symbolize her "fantasy" of marriage. If you have been married for 10 years, you know the "fantasy" & the "reality" of marriage are two separate entities. Mattmatt - I would love to say that she doesn't care about the ring & it's all about you. In the end, it is. But, I have said this MANY time before. Women tend to care much less about what's on the paper specs; and care much more about the actual reality (prettiness) of the ring. Men seem to get lost in the paper aspects of a stone. Women just want results.
Posted: 4/7/2004 11:45:49 AM

P: 4/7/2004 1:02:12 PM
sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004	---------------- On 4/7/2004 11:45:49 AM fire&ice wrote: ---------------- On 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM andr3wpd wrote: Mattmatt - I would love to say that she doesn't care about the ring & it's all about you. In the end, it is. But, I have said this MANY time before. Women tend to care much less about what's on the paper specs; and care much more about the actual reality (prettiness) of the ring. Men seem to get lost in the paper aspects of a stone. Women just want results. ---------------- I guess I'm the exception to that rule. I think the 'science' behind the beauty of a diamond is totally fascinating. To this day, I still pull out my cert and check out the specs of my stone every so often.
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:02:12 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:05:27 PM
maristidou Rough Rock Total Posts: 75 Last Post: 7/12/2004 Member Since: 3/17/2004	I have to agree with sumi. I am a female and I want to know everything about the stone. It's research research research for me. My fiance however is the total opposite. I think it just depends on the person. Melina
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:05:27 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:16:34 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	Naw, I think that women who frequent diamond boards are not the general women public. We here because we want to learn about diamonds. I doubt we are a cross section of the world.
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:16:34 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004	True...Meaning WE are not NORMAL! And honestly, we aren't. I have been asking women with interesting rings about them, and too many women didn't know color or clarity on them. Me, I could tell you what type of inclusions, where they are, and every property of my stone in all types of lighting. I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or "pretty" and that's OK. Glad to know my guy knows what type I am...and STILL wants to marry me! "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! " Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:24:47 PM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	I'm pretty sure my GF falls into the not-caring category. But I'm having fun at least with all this! VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:24:47 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:38:27 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	---------------- On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote: I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or 'pretty' and that's OK. ]---------------- Nope, that's me size and pretty. My feeling is that often the cert doesn't translate to the beauty of a diamond.
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:38:27 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:39:15 PM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,868 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	---------------- On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote: True...Meaning WE are not NORMAL! And honestly, we aren't. I have been asking women with interesting rings about them, and too many women didn't know color or clarity on them. - We're definetly in the minority! I was talking to a woman the other day with a THREE carat upgrade and she wasn't even sure of the color and clarity , which still astounds me as I can't imagine making that big of a purchase without knowing all the intimate details. lol OH, and my best friend thinks I'm insane with my diamond obsession . . .but lets me play with her diamonds under my loop and clean them and all that just to indulge me (hahaha - and keep in mind this is the ONLY time her stones ever get cleaned as to her it's not that big of a deal)! Michelle
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:39:15 PM

P: 4/7/2004 1:45:34 PM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,868 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	---------------- On 4/7/2004 1:38:27 PM fire&ice wrote: ---------------- On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote: I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or 'pretty' and that's OK. ]---------------- Nope, that's me size and pretty. My feeling is that often the cert doesn't translate to the beauty of a diamond. ---------------- This is exactly how that woman I talked with must have felt, but she just seemed interested in size, if you know what I mean. Her ring was sort of pretty but not amazing or anything lol Regardless if we're interested in details of the stone or not, i think, still, we're all totally neurotic here and probably need therapy as we do seem to think about diamonds A LOT more often than the average person. BUT, hmmm. . ., the other day I went to the car wash to have my car vaccuumed and watched many of the guys there practically detail their cars with tooth brushes and I'm sure they spend far too many hours reading up on automobiles, too, so maybe we all ARE normal in some manner and it's okay to have our obsessions regardless of what they are. Who knows??? Michelle
Posted: 4/7/2004 1:45:34 PM

P: 4/7/2004 4:02:13 PM
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004	True Michelle, TRUE! We each have our thing. Now that the stone is purchased, Rand has nothing more to do with the diamond forums, (until I get preggers or an anniversary where I will need more jewels) but is now living on car forums, where he is researching a new car! I guess since I got my shiny new baby, he wanted one too, just not so small, and the kind that goes Vroom Vroom... BOYS! "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! " Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.
Posted: 4/7/2004 4:02:13 PM

P: 4/7/2004 4:04:33 PM
verticalhorizon Ideal Rock Total Posts: 840 Last Post: 3/24/2006 Member Since: 3/9/2004	Can I get the names of those car forums? VH (aka GroomZilla) --- This post was brought to you by the Church of Cut Quality. Note: I am not an expert. Just a friendly neighbor.
Posted: 4/7/2004 4:04:33 PM

P: 4/7/2004 6:42:51 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	---------------- On 4/7/2004 4:04:33 PM verticalhorizon wrote: Can I get the names of those car forums? ---------------- The real question is not about spec interest & the female persuastion. The real question is "Why do men ALWAYS have to bring up CARS on the diamond board.
Posted: 4/7/2004 6:42:51 PM

P: 4/7/2004 6:46:56 PM
sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004	Well, I have to confess to being mildly neurotic about the cleanliness of my car. I always keep it clean, and I polish and wax it on a regular basis. I vacuum and Armor All the inside.....and don't forget to do the tires! OF COURSE I do this myself as I do not want strangers washing my car. (and yes, I am female if you didn't know already).
Posted: 4/7/2004 6:46:56 PM

P: 4/7/2004 6:55:18 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	Not me, I pride myself on how dirty my car can become before I get called down on it. Actually, I've given up. Our drive is 1/2 mile to the street. It's a gravel road. When it's dry there is dust covering it. When it's rained, the puddles jump up & cover the car. My cats walk all over it w/ their paw prints as well. You can't be anal about these things & live in the country.
Posted: 4/7/2004 6:55:18 PM

P: 4/7/2004 7:03:19 PM
CaptAubrey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 862 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 3/28/2004	---------------- On 4/7/2004 6:42:51 PM fire&ice wrote: The real question is not about spec interest & the female persuastion. The real question is 'Why do men ALWAYS have to bring up CARS on the diamond board. ---------------- well, not always. though, that kind of brings up a good gender separation question: if you had $80,000 to spend, would you get this: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/E55.jsp or this http://www.dirtcheapdiamonds.com/diamond_detail.cfm?did=2417599&ref=PS622 me, i know which i would pick.
Posted: 4/7/2004 7:03:19 PM

P: 4/7/2004 7:13:11 PM
fire&ice Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,827 Last Post: 3/30/2009 Member Since: 7/22/2002	Silly man. No expensive car for me! I'd compromise. Buy the bluff 3 carat stone and a car and have some left over.
Posted: 4/7/2004 7:13:11 PM

P: 4/7/2004 7:47:57 PM
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004	I'm with F&I!!! My fiance and I had this discussion. If you were given $100,000 to blow, what would you spend it on... my #1 was diamonds of course, but QUANTITY, not size, would be my thing...$35K and then #2 buy my fiance the nice new car (not his super deluxe sports car, just a nice new one, like he used to have BEFORE me...) $35K and a mandatory $20K minimum in savings... and $10K on family or maybe a big family reunion in ONE country! "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! " Nicrez, G.G., A.J.P.
Posted: 4/7/2004 7:47:57 PM

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