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Where can you buy tiny colored diamonds? |
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| P: 3/24/2004 1:24:45 AM | |
bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
I posted earlier asking if anyone has seen settings with pink channel set or pave diamonds. Apparently there are not many setitngs out there, sooooooo.... I was wondering if there is anyone that knows of any jewelers that sell small pink diamonds (just the stones themselves). keeping in mind, my ultimate goal is to channel set or pave them, the sizes I need would be .01, .02, .03 ish. And I would probably need quite a few, as in 20 or 30. If there is anyone out there with any information as to how I, or a local jeweler could obtain these, I'd be very very appreciative!!! As a side note, does anyone know if pinks even show up well in a platinum setting if they are this small? I'm going for a ring like Mara's but with Pink stones in the band. Thanks ahead of time! By the way, I live in the Washington DC area. |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 1:24:45 AM | |
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| P: 3/24/2004 5:49:08 AM | |
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,582 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
nice pinks are 6 to 100 times the price of whites - so they are not easy to sell via the web. You will find very few cheap options. I am putting a set of 0.015ct togehter for my wifes solotaire (under the bezel) - it has taken 3 months to get 8 stones and they will cost around $30,000 per carat. Upscale jewellers are your best option. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 5:49:08 AM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 11:56:55 AM | |
mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
Pink melee certainly exists, but it is a special order item. And remember that Garry lives in Australia, the Land of Pink Diamonds.
 Your best bet is to find a high-end jeweler who specializes in fancy color diamonds and get their help.
Expect to pay a great deal of money for an attractive, well-matched final product.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 11:56:55 AM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 12:24:05 PM | |
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bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
What about the treated or irradiated (sp ) stones?I have heard they are much more economical, and its an accepted practice to get the stones the colors you want them.. Thanks for the info above guys, much appreciated!
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 12:24:05 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 12:48:20 PM | |
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mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
Also a special order item. In addition, a lot of jewelers don't like handling treated or synthetic diamonds because of the perceived "taint." You'll just have to ask around.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 12:48:20 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 3:19:35 PM | |
sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004 |
---------------- I'm a little confused. Is such a comment allowed here at PS? It seems like a sales come-on to me. 
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 3:19:35 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 3:24:56 PM | |
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bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
In this case, it seems that no one knows where to get them, and this person is simply directing traffic. I dont think they are trying to one up anyone else, or say they are better or worse. Being this is such a rare request, I feel like its ok. I know I'd be grateful if they can solve my problem!!!  I think directing traffic like this is ok. I have sent them a private note for the detailed discussion purposes.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 3:24:56 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 3:28:20 PM | |
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,848 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003 |
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 3:28:20 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 3:31:57 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
---------------- There are quite a few... actually, this could have been a PM, but hardly any seller advertises colored melee anywhere: so comparing prices and qualities is almost mission impossible. Surely what Garry was after cannot be the same stuff sold at 'high white' prices most of the time. I would rather hear more, preferably without the sales pitch.  I hope the fragile, transparent, essential line between marketing and Pricescope somehow endures.  Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 3:31:57 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 3:39:03 PM | |
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sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004 |
I agree Valeria. I enjoy any discussion about colored diamonds. I know there's a fine line between sales pitches and useful information. Often times, it's tricky to determine what side of that line a comment falls on. Personally, I think that comment should have been a PM. One of the things I love about PS is that I don't have to wade through countless sales pitches and other sales BS to get good information. I feel really free to ask questions here without wondering what this person is trying to sell me. I really don't intent to highjack this thread because I do love information about colored diamonds. I'm just very weary of people who come here one day to post inflammatory and insulting statements, and then come fishing around for business the next day.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 3:39:03 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:10:48 PM | |
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mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
---------------- I've seen far worse. In this case, with a difficult to find specialty item and a poster requesting specific advice on where to buy, I think it's okay. JMHO.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:10:48 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:20:30 PM | |
diamondsbylauren Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 1/5/2006 Member Since: 10/18/2003 |
If you look at the thread's title, I was simply offering assistance on a hard to find item.
I had hoped my post would assist the PS member looking.
David |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:20:30 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:28:47 PM | |
pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
David, You are correct that this is a hard to find item. But, you are a Vendor and open solicitations are expressly forbidden. You said you have what this poster is looking for readily available. That's a sales solicitation. No 2 ways about it. You could have provided BB1 the same info via PM. Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:28:47 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:39:20 PM | |
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diamondsbylauren Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 1/5/2006 Member Since: 10/18/2003 |
And now, after my last post I see I've created another storm over here.
I never meant to insult anyone- If the thread of yesterday hadn't been posted elsewhere, I'd have never known about it.
I'm not trying to hijack or steal customers. I was helping a PS member to find something they can't find elsewhere- is this wrong?
If this comes up again, I'll pm the person therby depriving the rest of the folks watching the info.
Here's some specific info on Pink melee.
Pink melee ranges in price from about $1500 for very faint stones to about $9000 per carat for something with a nice pink hue
David |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:39:20 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:48:56 PM | |
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pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
---------------- You could have said, "Pink melee is readily available." and then added the comment I highlighted in bold. You did't have to say "We have it! We can get it for you!" Yesterday news is yesterday news and has nothing to do with today's issue of solicitation. I would have made the same comment to Rhino, or CutNut, or Jim from DCD, or anyother Vendor if they had posted a similar response. Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:48:56 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:49:39 PM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Thanks! Actually, most sellers do this here; post technicals as if the most deesinterested people in the world and those "show me the ring" posts also come from somewhere. Just PS "win-win" protocol, I supose. We all get a bit of their time, and I personally get to do some work instead of going out in town to chat with jewelrs between two computer simmulations  I trully hope the Pricescope threads on yellow diamonds are going to get longer in the near future. As for now, it is hard to tell wether these exist at all!Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:49:39 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 4:57:19 PM | |
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diamondsbylauren Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 1/5/2006 Member Since: 10/18/2003 |
AnA- If I do not misunderstand, you've posted something nice for me- THANK YOU!
David |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 4:57:19 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 5:01:19 PM | |
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bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
I feel like the general idea of this forum is for knowledge gain. I, as a member of the general public, am having the hardest time finding these stones, and thats why I posted the topic. I know they exist, but they are certianly not readily available. I take DBL's post as a nice, honest, helpful piece of information. I know if in the end he can help me locate some of these stones, then I will owe it to pricescope. Again, this situaiton is different. I think there is a growing interest in colored stones, and still very limited knowledge out there. The more resources I have access to as a consumer the btter armed, informed, and prepared I can be. And after all isnt that why we all come to pricescope in the first place? If I had posted aksing who had the best price on a 1.7 H and A, then that certianly would be a different story. I think in this case, DBL, is doing a service to everyone on this forum, and I know I'm certianly grateful. Just my 2 cents. Now hopefully, I can track down some solid pinks!!!
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 5:01:19 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 5:14:26 PM | |
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sumi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 565 Last Post: 1/3/2006 Member Since: 1/6/2004 |
---------------- Or, rather, thereby depriving yourself of a sale? bb1: I think your question is a very valid one. I share your interest in colored diamonds. I think that is why I was so sensitive to DBL's response. I want to come to PS and ask questions, and get answers without the sales pitch. There isn't a lot of info on colored diamonds out there, and PS is certainly a good resource for unbiased info. I think the story would be quite different if you had come here asking for a 1.7 H&A because you would have had other consumers pointing you to many different vendors and stones. I see a big difference between consumers pointing you to certain stones and a vendor telling you he has what you want to buy. The consumers don't have a vested interest in your choice of vendor or stone. I even see a difference if another consumer had pointed you to DBL. Again, there isn't that problem of a vested interest in the sale. As for where to find good colored stones.....do you have a jeweler that you work with? I have spoken to my jeweler about yellow diamonds in the past and she said that when I'm ready to actually purchase some, she will be able to locate them for me. If you do have a jeweler that you like and trust, you might want to start there. And of course....don't forget to post pictures of the final product!
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 5:14:26 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 9:58:48 PM | |
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bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
I have checked with my locals and most have told me the usual, that they can get them with enough time. I'm just in a bit of a pinch for time, so thats why I asked if anyone had a good source. I'll keep you all updated on how this hunt turns out. I think it will look wonderful once its done - if it gets done  .Basically, I have a 1.66 G Si1 H and A. I want to put about 16 (8 on each side).02 or .03 pinks prong or pave set on each side - similar to Mara's ring, and then line the front and backs of the band with .01 whites. I'll post pics if I can get it done. Thanks to all for the tips!
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 9:58:48 PM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 8:01:51 AM | |
elmo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,142 Last Post: 10/19/2009 Member Since: 6/18/2003 |
I think most folks here and many locals don't have the time, contacts, and experience to deal with something as specialized as fine pink melee and color in general. That's been my experience at least. Sure they can get it with time but their business is geared towards what they do best, and even some very fine dealers really don't know much about the market for this stuff. Yes it is a very fine line but IMO this response was actually a useful "exchange of information" so I don't have a problem with someone like David coming along saying he works with this and please send a pm for info. Otherwise someone might end up paying 30k per carat for one pointers when that sort of stone isn't what they're looking for.
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| Posted: 3/25/2004 8:01:51 AM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 10:46:18 AM | |
rocks Cut Rock Total Posts: 122 Last Post: 8/21/2009 Member Since: 11/13/2003 |
you might consider pink sapphires. i personally love pink melee, but you will have a very difficult time matching size and color. as well, with a g color center stone, there may not be enough contrast. most pink diamonds and sapphires have a slight yellow undertone...that will not enhance the look of your diamond. when i work with colored diamonds, i only use d/e/f for that reason. just my opinion. i'd hate to hear that you spent a small fortune, and didn't get a beautiful result (i've done this before...)
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| Posted: 3/25/2004 10:46:18 AM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 8:02:45 PM | |
The Joker Cut Rock Total Posts: 187 Last Post: 7/29/2009 Member Since: 10/25/2003 |
I found some light pink on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10216&item=4101122355 Joker.... Terry Murray (AKA: The Joker) |
| Posted: 3/25/2004 8:02:45 PM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 10:29:18 PM | |
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bb1 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 4/2/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
Thanks Joker, Great looking out! I think I may have a few places I've discovered. After I take a look at these places stones, I'll update everyone here, and hopefully if this all pans out, we might have a reliable source or two for these little guys. Thanks everyone!
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| Posted: 3/25/2004 10:29:18 PM | |
| P: 3/26/2004 2:23:43 AM | |
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valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
---------------- I know this post is not new, but I just saw it. It does not sound like anything I know about these colors. A mix of yellow and pink... pad color? I am not sure what this is about. But that week saturation in more mundane pink diamonds is an issue, I surely understand (the ones in the Ebay posts are well worth the price). Small pink sapphires can be VERY pink Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 3/26/2004 2:23:43 AM | |
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