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Friends, Is this a good choice and price.... |
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| P: 3/19/2004 1:07:29 PM | |
Trinity Rough Rock Total Posts: 48 Last Post: 4/5/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
Hello Friends, Please tell me what you think of this diamond. Is this diamond a good choice? Is the price good? Heart shape diamond Carat: 1.31 Color: J Clarity: SI1 Cut quality: Excellent Measurements: 6.70 - 7.62 - 4.65 Depth: 61 Table: 59 Girdle: thin to thick faceted Cutlet: None Polish: Good Symmetry: Good Fluorescence: None GIA Report Price: $3,302.00 Thank you for your help! 
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| Posted: 3/19/2004 1:07:29 PM | |
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| P: 3/19/2004 1:17:07 PM | |
Basset Hound Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 3/27/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2004 |
It is alittle fat, should be more 1 to 1 ratio. Heart shapes don't move to good. As long as it is the same stone that is on the cert, you are alright. But I would still try to get some more off of it. |
| Posted: 3/19/2004 1:17:07 PM | |
| P: 3/19/2004 1:29:25 PM | |
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,670 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
I don't think there are any real standards when it comes to hearts, so I'll defer to Ed's professional opinion.
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| Posted: 3/19/2004 1:29:25 PM | |
| P: 3/19/2004 1:36:17 PM | |
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Trinity Rough Rock Total Posts: 48 Last Post: 4/5/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
Thank you for your advice everyone. The only thing is, I don't think I can get any more dollars off the price. I saw the stone listed on a website. As far as the price, is it too over priced?
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| Posted: 3/19/2004 1:36:17 PM | |
| P: 3/19/2004 1:56:15 PM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,893 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
Trinity, you don't know until you ask, right?
Make sure it's eye clean.
Ed, do heart shapes show color more readily than a round brilliant? If so, Trinity, you may want to be sure that you could be comfortable with a slightly warm looking stone.
Other than that...don't know a thing about heart shaped stones!
Good luck!________________________________ |
| Posted: 3/19/2004 1:56:15 PM | |
| P: 3/19/2004 3:21:01 PM | |
Giangi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,530 Last Post: 10/29/2006 Member Since: 1/23/2003 |
I like hearts, even thought they are not very hot at the moment. Yes, they do show color more readily than round brilliants, so I would make sure it faces up white and not yellowish. Numbers are not that useful with hearts (and fancy shapes in general), bt this one sounds promising: nice table and crown % and a nice, not too thick girdle. Is the vendor able to provide you with pictures?
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| Posted: 3/19/2004 3:21:01 PM | |
| P: 3/19/2004 3:24:54 PM | |
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003 |
Not sure you could get a substantial discount. The numbers look fine but this is definitely not a shape one would want to get sight unseen. Of course, return policies do help with this... As for the color and clarity grades, these are by no means an unusual choice, and it really is up to you to decide wether they work well for you. Seeing some other J stone may help : a badly cut round would show color more, so those - or any other fancy, really - would do just fine, I guess. Otherwise, it is great to inspect your diamond aside others for color comparison. I suspect a J color grade would look plenty white on it's own so side-by side comparison may be the best way to see what "color" means in these colorless stones This could happen if the stone gets from Cyberspace into an appraiser's shop for you to get an evaluation and the proper reference for it. Just my 0.2, of course. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian] |
| Posted: 3/19/2004 3:24:54 PM | |
| P: 3/20/2004 8:48:43 AM | |
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Basset Hound Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 3/27/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2004 |
Stones with points usually will face up darker. Every thing in this business is negotiable. The price the stone is being offered at is very fair. So even if you pay the price they are asking you are not getting burnt. But since they are not the more popular cut, and there are 260 or so odd days till xmas, maybe they want to move it and get the cash flow. Give them a counter offer. You never know until you ask. What is the worst thing they can say, No? If you do purchase it, make sure you know their return policy, and buy it with a credit card. Once you have it on your finger it may or may not perform the way you want. |
| Posted: 3/20/2004 8:48:43 AM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 1:26:43 PM | |
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Trinity Rough Rock Total Posts: 48 Last Post: 4/5/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
I want to thank everyone for their advice. Unfortunately, the vendor of this stone will not reply to my e-mails and also cannot be reached by phone. I tried to get intouch with this vendor way before posting my original post. I read somewhere else that someone else had a similiar problem with this vendor. I had a problem with another vendor before that. That was another story! These are not unknown vendors either. I get more quality sales attention from a car salesman !  
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 1:26:43 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 10:06:02 PM | |
Debutante Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 4/1/2004 Member Since: 3/19/2004 |
No. There really is no such thing as a good price for a diamond ring. The resale value of any diamond, if you're lucky, even with the cleanest purest whateveryoucallit kind is maybe about 50% of what you pay for it. Probably less. Buy a car for the money. Get yourself some other kind of ring. Unless the sentimental value is worth it for you. In that case, spend whatever you like on whatever captures your heart. The next person to buy it off you won't pay what you paid no matter what. The sad truth. Do some research.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 10:06:02 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 11:06:53 PM | |
diamondsman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 625 Last Post: 11/12/2009 Member Since: 11/11/2002 |
---------------- The stone is not proprtioned right, it must be a little on the fat side, and Where does it say that it's excellent cut?is it on the cert?if not who decided that it is?,I dont' think that it is. as far as price is,It's not a bad price, although it's about $80.00+/- more than it should be. check the web and see if you have any other choices that could fit your budget ,broaden your search ,maybe to a lower color and better quality. Diamondsman |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 11:06:53 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 11:15:13 PM | |
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Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,893 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
Debutante...this IS a diamond website, so chances are most people here know that diamonds are a luxury item and choose to pay that price. The original poster asked if it was a good price on the stone, not what else should she be doing with her money.
 She's doing research, on her potential diamond purchase. That is more than appropriate for this type of forum.
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| Posted: 3/24/2004 11:15:13 PM | |
| P: 3/24/2004 11:53:37 PM | |
Rhino Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,861 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 3/29/2001 |
ditto dat
Rhino |
| Posted: 3/24/2004 11:53:37 PM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 12:24:35 AM | |
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Debutante, For the most part I agree with you but there is a time and place for that kind of comment threads like this one arent it. Threads about DeBeers price increases are a good place for em and there was one posted today. Have fun :} ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 3/25/2004 12:24:35 AM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 12:27:38 AM | |
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strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Trinity, I like heart shapped diamonds but I think they are almost impossible to buy by the the numbers. Iv looked at maybe a dozen of them and only one was something Id consider buying. The sad fact is that not many places cut them and the ones that do I suspect arent the top grade cutters. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 3/25/2004 12:27:38 AM | |
| P: 3/25/2004 12:41:26 PM | |
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Trinity Rough Rock Total Posts: 48 Last Post: 4/5/2004 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
Thank you again for your thoughts everyone! I would of liked to seen a picture of this diamond, but I am finding it extremely difficult to get a response from the vendor of this stone. Because of this, I decided to look at other diamonds from different vendors. Today, I posted about a different diamond which is an emerald cut. I liked the carat weight of this stone, but I decided to look at other stones with less weight and better color/clarity as an option. On the website I saw the heart diamond listed on, it was listed as an excellent cut. This was not on the cert however. I don't plan on reselling the diamond I end up buying. So, I am not worried about retaining the value on the stone. thanks again!
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| Posted: 3/25/2004 12:41:26 PM | |
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