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No Holocaust!? Mel Gibson's Father Speaks! |
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| P: 2/20/2004 11:05:02 AM | |
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,047 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003 |
Well...we know where Mel Gibson's father stands on the subject of Jews! This is a report from "Newsday": From Newsday Hutton Gibson's Passion Mel Gibson's dad blasts Jews in radio talk show interview By Carol Eisenberg STAFF WRITER February 20 2004 Even as Mel Gibson has sought to quell charges that his movie "The Passion of the Christ" is anti-Semitic, his 85-year-old father discounted the idea that millions of Jews died in the Holocaust and said Jews were trying to take over the world. "It's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is," Hutton Gibson said of the Holocaust in a radio interview that will air Monday night. Coming only days before the opening of his son's film on Feb. 25, Ash Wednesday, Hutton Gibson's comments inflamed the debate over whether the film will foment anti-Semitic hatred. Critics of "The Passion," including some Catholic scholars, have said it blames Jews for killing Jesus and caricatures them as bloodthirsty. Mel Gibson denies that and recently agreed to remove the "blood curse," lines from the Gospel of Matthew often interpreted to blame all Jews for all time for Jesus' killing. A spokesman for ICON, the filmmaker's production company, A. Larry Ross, said that Hutton Gibson had no influence on the making of "The Passion of the Christ" or on the thinking of his son, "who doesn't share those particular views." Ross said Mel Gibson stuck by what he told ABC's Diane Sawyer in an interview aired Monday. "That's my father, OK, I love him," he'd said. "And if they're going to try and drive a wedge in there, it ain't going to happen." Steven Feuerstein, host of the syndicated radio talk show "Speak Your Piece!," said he interviewed Hutton Gibson three times since Monday. Portions of the interviews will be broadcast locally on WSNR/620 Monday and Wednesday at 10 p.m. "He was totally cognizant of everything he was saying," Feuerstein said. "This man has an agenda. That's the bottom line. " Hutton Gibson, of Summersville, W.Va., is a self-described leader in the ultratraditionalist Catholic sect that rejects reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), including the church's renunciation of the notion of Jews as culpable for the death of Jesus. According to transcripts of the interview, he also blamed Jews for everything from the Roman persecution of early Christians to fomenting the Russian Revolution to orchestrating an international banking conspiracy. He urges someone to go out and "hang" Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who is Jewish. Mel Gibson's defenders denounced the interview yesterday as part of "the whole hit-and-run, and search-and-destroy mission by Gibson's enemies" in the words of William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. The president of the company that distributes "Speak Your Piece!" called yesterday for a boycott of all of Gibson's films. "His actions speak louder than his words," said Zev Brenner, a rabbi who is president and executive producer of the Manhattan-based Talkline Communications Network, America's largest syndicator of Jewish programming. "He could come out and say, 'I love my father, but I disagree with his views.'" Most Jewish leaders, however, were relatively muted in their reaction. "On the one hand, he's [Hutton Gibson] a classical anti-Semite who is full of conspiracy theories and hate and perversion," said Abraham Foxman, executive director of the Anti-Defamation League. But Foxman said it would be unfair to ascribe Hutton Gibson's views to his son. "There are examples of parents who are bigots and children who are not, and vice versa. So who knows?" Still, the father's remarks may help explain why Mel Gibson has "not gotten" Jewish concerns, Foxman said. "I've been saying all along that I don't believe he's an anti-Semite," Foxman said of Mel Gibson. "I think he just doesn't get it. And this gives a partial explanation of why. If he was raised hearing all these things about Jews, it would be difficult for him to comprehend that which hurts us and pains us." Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc. Copyright 2004 Metromix.com A Girl's Best Friend |
| Posted: 2/20/2004 11:05:02 AM | |
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| P: 2/20/2004 3:15:49 PM | |
Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Wow, how weird that all this drama and controversy comes out BEFORE the movie release, and just in time for ticket sales....weird, huh?
"Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! |
| Posted: 2/20/2004 3:15:49 PM | |
| P: 2/20/2004 8:24:46 PM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,921 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
.....and I am still trying to see Win a Date with Tad Hamilton...I must be behind the times in terms of what is out for movies.
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| Posted: 2/20/2004 8:24:46 PM | |
| P: 2/20/2004 10:11:30 PM | |
pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
I saw the Diane Sawyer/Mel Gibson interview. I applaude how he handled her on the issue of his father. He answered her questions about what he believes happened in the Holocaust. Basically what history has recorded. When she pressed him about his father, Mel told her he loves his father and to leave it alone. Don't go there. And he wouldn't answer any further questions about his father. The New York reporter that started stirring this pot, has written 3 articles on "Passion", and has not even seen the movie. How's that for objective journalism??!! 
Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 2/20/2004 10:11:30 PM | |
| P: 2/21/2004 12:56:40 AM | |
mike04456 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,441 Last Post: 3/28/2004 Member Since: 11/20/2002 |
I don't think Mel should have to answer for his father's behavior. They're both adults.
One can love a parent without agreeing with or endorsing his or her views.
I certainly would not want to have to answer for some of thing things my nuttier relatives have done.
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| Posted: 2/21/2004 12:56:40 AM | |
| P: 2/24/2004 3:03:41 PM | |
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Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Good point LawGem....All those with nutters in your family raise your hands!
*Raising both hands high*
"Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! |
| Posted: 2/24/2004 3:03:41 PM | |
| P: 2/24/2004 9:08:20 PM | |
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AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,047 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003 |
---------------- One doesn't have to see the movie to have an opinion on aspects of it which have been very, very widely publicized. Nor does one have to see the movie to have an opinion on the senior Mr. Gibson's anti-semitism. Call me jaded, but I wonder if Jesus, as portrayed by Mel Gibson, will look Semitic and dress like a Jew or if he will look like the Renaissance Jesuses who look more Norwegian than Semitic. I wonder if Mr. Gibson even *knew* how Jews of the period dressed. I *have* read opinion written by scholars of the period on the languages used in the film (where is the Greek?) and about crucifixion (the dearth of skeltal evidence about how it was inflicted). I would never watch the movie not for *POLITICAL* reasons, but because I am not sufficiently masochistic to subject myself to it! I have opinions on it, though!!! A Girl's Best Friend |
| Posted: 2/24/2004 9:08:20 PM | |
| P: 2/24/2004 10:00:59 PM | |
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pqcollectibles Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,441 Last Post: 6/18/2005 Member Since: 2/23/2003 |
The reporter I was referring to, and I do wish I could remember his name, wrote the articles MONTHS ago. Like AUGUST. He wrote 3 articles about "Passion" right around the time a test viewing with a Jewish audience was held. The reporter, himself, was not invited to the showing. He also had not seen any clips when he wrote his articles. He was not quoting the views of people who had seen the film. He was voicing an opinion on something he had not seen. That journalist's articles were the impetus for the storm that has embroiled the film. I don't have thoughts one way or the other about the film. Historically correct? Lots of "subject" movies aren't. Mel Gibson has repeatedly said this film is HIS vision. What HE believes. What the Scriptures have said to HIM. I'll wait to see the movie and form my own opinion.  Why use a big word when a diminutive word would be succinct! |
| Posted: 2/24/2004 10:00:59 PM | |
| P: 2/24/2004 10:11:32 PM | |
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Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
I don't know about anyone else, but I am wondering if anyone has seen the movie in previews or anything. I actually wanted to see the portray (Mel or not) because my interest in the era was totally sparked by the book The Da Vinci Code. So many questions left unanswered. Actually a few of Dan Brown's books have been that way, and the religious ones have left me curious to see other points of view (even if they are incorrect) because there is always something to learn. All the hype is just to boost sales, especially with a religiously slanted movie such as the PASSION OF CHRIST...I mean really...
"Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! |
| Posted: 2/24/2004 10:11:32 PM | |
| P: 2/25/2004 9:28:53 AM | |
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AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,047 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003 |
---------------- We appear to be similar in that works of fiction can pique our curiosity :-). I have always tended to go off on tangents, immersing myself in research after a movie or book suddenly provided me with interesting, "new" material! I remember the movie "The Lion in Winter" starting avid research into the real life of Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II. Similarly the PBS television series "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" gave me a lot of material about which to read. If one adds to that that PBS had a series, "Elizabeth R" and that I loved the movie, "Mary, Queen of Scots"...well, we have taken care of all the religious struggles in England since Henry VIII divorced Catherine of Aragon and broke with the Roman Catholic Church! Deb A Girl's Best Friend |
| Posted: 2/25/2004 9:28:53 AM | |
| P: 2/25/2004 11:21:25 AM | |
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Nicrez Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,230 Last Post: 10/21/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2004 |
Ooooh! AGBF you have me totally interested! I have never been a history buff, but lately I have been reading these depictions with new eyes! What may have started me was a book I read a while ago, The Twentieth Wife, about Empress Noor Jahan of the 17th Century Mugal Empire in India. Talk about a strong lady!!! That book followed up with The Feast of Roses, the second book, and it was good, but not like the first.
Then I saw The Red Tent, and was intrigued by the story of Dinah, another stronger woman story, and I have been interested in finding more books about history and especially the history of women.
Da Vinci Code had some good elements, and I considered looking into the stories of Cleopatra and Helen of Troy, but have yet to find good historical books about either yet...
Any other good recommendations? I am putting these on my list!
 "Sometimes it's OK to throw rocks at girls...as long as they sparkle! |
| Posted: 2/25/2004 11:21:25 AM | |
| P: 2/25/2004 12:27:18 PM | |
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AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,047 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003 |
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| Posted: 2/25/2004 12:27:18 PM | |
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