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 Should I let Jareds set my JA diamond??

P:  8/27/2009 11:13:51 AM  
IanA
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Hello everyone,

So I recenlty purchased an engagement ring setting from a local Jared's store.  I bought a loose diamond from JA.  Here is my question...

I am a little nervous if I should take the loose diamond to Jareds and let them set it OR take both pieces to a 3rd party local shop and have it set.

I am just wondering if Jareds is going to do less than perfect work or give me grief because I got the diamond elsewhere.  Also,  will there appraisal be way off because its not a diamond they sold??

Thanks in advance,
Ian
Posted:  8/27/2009 11:13:51 AM

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P: 8/27/2009 11:16:54 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 8/27/2009 11:13:51 AM
Author:IanA
Hello everyone,

So I recenlty purchased an engagement ring setting from a local Jared's store. I bought a loose diamond from JA. Here is my question...

I am a little nervous if I should take the loose diamond to Jareds and let them set it OR take both pieces to a 3rd party local shop and have it set.

I am just wondering if Jareds is going to do less than perfect work or give me grief because I got the diamond elsewhere. Also, will there appraisal be way off because its not a diamond they sold??

Thanks in advance,
Ian

Hi Ian

Whoever you choose, ask if they will assume responsibility should the diamond get damaged whilst setting, this is rare but it can happen so definitely something you need to check out.  You could ask JA if they will set the stone in your setting for you, no harm in asking.

As for an appraisal, I would advise using an independant appraiser who does not have a vested interest,  see this tool here.

http://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx









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Posted:  8/27/2009 11:16:54 AM
P: 8/27/2009 11:29:38 AM
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Date: 8/27/2009 11:16:54 AM
Author: Lorelei

Hi Ian

Whoever you choose, ask if they will assume responsibility should the diamond get damaged whilst setting, this is rare but it can happen so definitely something you need to check out. You could ask JA if they will set the stone in your setting for you, no harm in asking.

As for an appraisal, I would advise using an independant appraiser who does not have a vested interest, see this tool here.

http://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx
JA will, and setting fee is around 100. That's the route I would go.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  8/27/2009 11:29:38 AM
P: 8/27/2009 11:35:52 AM
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Date: 8/27/2009 11:29:38 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 8/27/2009 11:16:54 AM
Author: Lorelei

Hi Ian

Whoever you choose, ask if they will assume responsibility should the diamond get damaged whilst setting, this is rare but it can happen so definitely something you need to check out. You could ask JA if they will set the stone in your setting for you, no harm in asking.

As for an appraisal, I would advise using an independant appraiser who does not have a vested interest, see this tool here.

http://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx
JA will, and setting fee is around 100. That's the route I would go.

Thank you......thank you very much.....









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  8/27/2009 11:35:52 AM
P: 8/27/2009 11:37:50 AM
Ellen
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Velcome!

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  8/27/2009 11:37:50 AM
P: 8/27/2009 12:14:19 PM
Regular Guy
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With respect to options, two links of interest to you...

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
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Posted:  8/27/2009 12:14:19 PM
P: 8/27/2009 12:25:26 PM
IanA
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Thanks for all the responses!

The links were helpful...

So I have an appt Monday with the PS appraiser in my area.  I am taking the loose diamond, she will appraise it, I will get the diamond set and she will then reappraise the total ring.


So now that that is out of the way, any other thoughts of Jareds for the setting process?  Or anyway to find reputable independant shops in my area?  I don't want to ship the items but I also want to pick a place where I don't have to worry.

Thanks again,
Ian

Posted:  8/27/2009 12:25:26 PM
P: 8/27/2009 12:32:24 PM
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Date: 8/27/2009 12:25:26 PM
Author: IanA
Thanks for all the responses!

The links were helpful...

So I have an appt Monday with the PS appraiser in my area. I am taking the loose diamond, she will appraise it....

don't forget to get the JM insurance next...


Date: 8/27/2009 12:25:26 PM
Author: IanA
 Or anyway to find reputable independant shops in my area? I don't want to ship the items but I also want to pick a place where I don't have to worry.

Thanks again,
Ian

I don't know that there's an excellent resource available that's generic to answer this question.  If you say where you are, folks on line may know.  Also, you could check the "local jewelers" resource above, under Resoucres, here, as a place to start...

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
____________

If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick!

however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous…

Posted:  8/27/2009 12:32:24 PM
P: 8/28/2009 1:27:04 AM
outatouch0
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glad you asked your question - ther replies were helpful to me too!!!

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Posted:  8/28/2009 1:27:04 AM
P: 8/28/2009 1:41:07 AM
Laila619
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I would not let Jared do it.  They had set a stone for me purchased pre Pricescope, and I was not pleased with the quality of their work.  After I found PS, I discovered that many people have had complaints with them.

However, just realize if James Allen sets the diamond for you and damages your Jared setting, your warranty with Jared will not cover it.

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Posted:  8/28/2009 1:41:07 AM
P: 9/2/2009 10:01:57 AM
IanA
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UPDATE:

So I took the advice here...

1.  Took the loose Diamond to my local PS appraiser, Katy.  She was great.  Her ratings were right in lines with the GIA rating of the JA diamond which also re-assured me of the quality.
2.  I decided to let Jareds set it even after my hesitations.  I had purchased the setting there a few weeks ago, but left it at the store.  I wasn't sure how they were going to react when I brought the stone in.  They obviously weren't thrilled that I didn't spend 5k more with them but they honestly didn't give me any grief.  They of course didn't mention anything positive about my diamond but thats understandable.  I gave them the diamond and they said it would be ready in 24 hours.  I picked up completed ring yesterday and it was a knockout.  The diamond looks so beautiful in the setting.  I know they might not be the most respected place, but all in all, I'm happy I had them set the diamond.
3.  Tomorrow I go back to Katy and get the whole piece appraised.

As a summary, I know I was able to get the setting my GF wanted by picking it locally and got a MUCH nicer diamond for my money with JA.  I am very happy with the overall process.

Again, I would like to thank everyone for the advice

Ian

Posted:  9/2/2009 10:01:57 AM
P: 9/2/2009 10:07:01 AM
Ellen
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Congrats!

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  9/2/2009 10:07:01 AM
P: 9/2/2009 10:07:19 AM
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Congrats. :)

No pics? :P

Posted:  9/2/2009 10:07:19 AM
P: 9/2/2009 10:48:17 AM
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Date: 9/2/2009 10:01:57 AM
Author: IanA
UPDATE:

So I took the advice here...

1. Took the loose Diamond to my local PS appraiser, Katy. She was great. Her ratings were right in lines with the GIA rating of the JA diamond which also re-assured me of the quality.
2. I decided to let Jareds set it even after my hesitations. I had purchased the setting there a few weeks ago, but left it at the store. I wasn't sure how they were going to react when I brought the stone in. They obviously weren't thrilled that I didn't spend 5k more with them but they honestly didn't give me any grief. They of course didn't mention anything positive about my diamond but thats understandable. I gave them the diamond and they said it would be ready in 24 hours. I picked up completed ring yesterday and it was a knockout. The diamond looks so beautiful in the setting. I know they might not be the most respected place, but all in all, I'm happy I had them set the diamond.
3. Tomorrow I go back to Katy and get the whole piece appraised.

As a summary, I know I was able to get the setting my GF wanted by picking it locally and got a MUCH nicer diamond for my money with JA. I am very happy with the overall process.

Again, I would like to thank everyone for the advice

Ian
congrats, I was just going to suggest that you go with them setting it, as you had purchased the setting from them and glad it worked out.

Posted:  9/2/2009 10:48:17 AM
P: 9/2/2009 1:12:33 PM
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Ian, congrats, glad it all worked out.

May I ask...did the question of liability every come up...raised by you or them (Jared's)...as to what their liability would be in the case of damage to the diamond?

Just curious.

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
____________

If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick!

however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous…

Posted:  9/2/2009 1:12:33 PM
P: 9/2/2009 1:24:48 PM
IanA
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RG,

Actually Jareds didn't mention a word about it either way.  Again, they became more "business like" (yet not rude or anything) when I handed them the diamond.  They provided good service, just not so "omg would you like a coffee while you wait" as they typically do.  They didn't mention laibility, but I had already got it insured as a loose diamond with my insurance company so I wasn't concerned.  For others in the situation, who want to buy a setting locally, Jareds was overall great with the process and I would recommend it to others.

Ian

Posted:  9/2/2009 1:24:48 PM
P: 9/2/2009 1:53:34 PM
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Date: 9/2/2009 1:24:48 PM
Author: IanA
RG,

Actually Jareds didn't mention a word about it either way. Again, they became more 'business like' (yet not rude or anything) when I handed them the diamond. They provided good service, just not so 'omg would you like a coffee while you wait' as they typically do. They didn't mention laibility, but I had already got it insured as a loose diamond with my insurance company so I wasn't concerned. For others in the situation, who want to buy a setting locally, Jareds was overall great with the process and I would recommend it to others.

Ian


Ian, since this is not common practice, I'm sure many here would be interested to know who the insurer is, and if anything unusual came about to get this insurance.

It's the loose diamond piece, being insured, that's unusual.  Good for you!

Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z.
____________

If you're looking for diamond shopping tips...this (along with this update) might do the trick!

however...caution: known to have been regarded as armed and dangerous…

Posted:  9/2/2009 1:53:34 PM

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