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 Are these good prices? Which diamond is better?

P:  10/10/2001 10:57:00 AM  
ukz483
ukz483

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I realize I need to get more information (pavillion and crown), but I'm having a difficult time with which diamond is the better deal:

Diamond 1:
1.33 carat
E color
VS1 clarity
Depth 62
Table 57
Thin to med. faceted
Very Good polish
Excellent Symmetry
Price $9850

Diamond 2:
1.43 carat
D color
VVS2 clarity
Depth 62.3
Table 60
Thin to slightly thick girdle
Very Good polish
Good Symmetry
Price $11,600

Also, are these good prices? Thanks.



Posted:  10/10/2001 10:57:00 AM

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P: 10/10/2001 11:22:00 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
Garry H (Cut Nut)

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FYI - GIA will give crown and pavilion angles on any stone they have graded so long as the request comes via the original submitter of the stone.

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

HCA and Ideal-scope developer

http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  10/10/2001 11:22:00 AM
P: 10/10/2001 11:34:00 AM
Pricescope
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You have better chance to have nicer stone with the first. It would be easier to say having crown and pavilion angles for it.

Does it have GIA grading report too? What are the measurements for the 1st stone?

Personally I like #1 - it is cheaper and you won't see a difference between D and E colors or VVS2 and VS1 clarity anyway.

$9,800 sounds ok.

Did you compare the diamonds and see the difference yourself? Which one do you like more?



Pricescope

Posted:  10/10/2001 11:34:00 AM
P: 10/10/2001 11:39:00 AM
ukz483
ukz483

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Thanks. They both have GIA. I'm not sure how to get pavilion and crown information. I'll ask them when I call if they have it, but do they usually have access to this information if it's not on the GIA?

The measurements for the first stone are 7.06-7.13 x 4.4mm

The measurements for the second stone are
7.20-7.28 x 4.51

I did compare them and could tell a slight difference between D and E. Perhaps that won't be as noticable in mounted in platinum band? I must say I was more attracted to the slightly larger stone. I agree that the VVS2 didn't matter, but the size and color were noticable. I'm not good at judging brilliance so didn't have a clear winner there to my naked eye.

Any additional input based on that addional information about measurements? Thanks again for your input. I really appreciate it.

Posted:  10/10/2001 11:39:00 AM
P: 10/11/2001 11:49:00 AM
RockDoc
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Even with the pavilion and crown information, you won't have near enough information about the stones.

First off, gett an average of the table, crown and pavilion mean nothing if the angles components used to form the average are not in close tolerance.

Secondly... even with the table, crown angles and pavilion main angle, you still are only analyzing 17 of the 57 facets ( 1 more if you consider the culet) so what about the other 40 facets....

Think they don't matter.....???? Surprise they do.

We report all angles for all facets in our report.

If you want to rely on information about a diamond, make sure its complete.


rockdoc

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1948-2007
Thanks for everything and Rest In Peace,Bill.

Posted:  10/11/2001 11:49:00 AM

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